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Cordy
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89 year old living alone in small 1 bed flat watching mostly freeview Channels but does get alit of pleasure from Sky sports, Eurosports, no devices, laptops or games consoles and mostly incoming calls on landlines. Currently paying over £178...she is not a household of 5, with multiple devices, she limited mobility pensioner living alone whose TV and sports (not  football) are her life.....all I want is someone to understand she doesn't need TNT, Netflix, super fast hyper mega mbps  broadband, or free calls, just a fair price for what she needs ! Ringing via 150 has been ridiculous frustrating and still unresolved 

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unisoft
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@Cordy wrote:

Your Virgin response has only served to infuriate me more...no response would have been better.....My mother is 89 doesn't have a laptop, doesn't use a smartphone, didn't even realise shes been paying almost £180 since last year and wouldn't stand a chance with CS on her own let alone know what WhatsApp is. Your bundles and terminolgy are a foreign language to my mum, your CS designed to do nothing more than confuse and contractually bind the vulnerable into another 18 months of over paying for packages that would suit a streaming, gaming, multi device, Netflix watching, digitally and online savvy family of 5. 

Shes 89 and just wants re-runs of the repair shop, couple of tea time quizzes, access to some cricket, tennis and darts and for the GP surgery to be able to contact her on landline. It shouldnt be this difficult.... Virgin aren't you blatantly and  shamelessly exploiting the vulnerable. Rant over! 


Can you not get your mum to ring in and then pass control of negotiation with retentions to you by telling the VM staff she wants you to explain why she is calling in?

You'll probably ultimately have to go through the "Leaving Virgin" option on the phone rather than standard Customer Services for any chance to open up a negotiation and get package changed. Be firm with "I want to cancel all services", else you will not be taken seriously. They will ask you why and you explain and that normally opens a dialogue about package changes and pricing. It would mean a new 18 month contract, but the discount would be significant especially if she hasn't gone through this process before.

The VM Stream box works off broadband and is portable as works off WiFi so could be used in lounge during day and taken up to bedroom TV for evening/night, but it has no record function, but has the ability to stop and start subscriptions at any time (each is 30 days) and core Freeview + many other channels are free without subscription. You can probably get Broadband down to the M125 package as fast enough if she wants Broadband (for example uses Catch Up TV services or getting a Stream box instead of standard coaxial cable tv box). Getting VM Stream if you have existing cable tv set top box like Tivo/v6 or 360 is a bit more complicated, because they have to do 30 days notice on the existing TV first before allowing change to Stream box. I've done it previously, so it can be done. After the TV service disconnects you can then order the Stream separately which will mean a small break in TV services.

Personal opinion, but I would NOT recommend to use WhatsApp to contact VM to do this, as the forum is littered with customers complaining that what was agreed with staff on WhatsApp turns out not to be what was agreed and much more expensive than agreed a few days later when contracts come through. I would recommend ringing Virgin Retentions by phone around 08:40am to have the least chance of being in a queue. Its 0345 454 1111 from a mobile and usually comes out of inclusive minutes for Tariffs with unlimited calls or certain amount of minutes included, or 150 from Virgin landline phone.

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japitts
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I'm going to guess that the person in question hasn't reviewed their package in several years, and thus is potentially on an outdated bundle, with no discounts (in exchange for a contractual lock-in) and probably long out of minimum term.

Unfortunately, it's this sort of demographic that often find themselves paying inflated prices for their packages. I'd even go so far as to suggest that calling CS without some basic groundwork being done, could do more harm than good.

You need to do some basic groundwork here, and decide what combination of services the person-in-question wants. Use the TV channel guide - https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-tv-edit/tips-and-tricks/virgin-tv-channel-guide - to audit which channels are required, and consequently which TV tier is needed. I suspect Mixit will suffice, but check for yourself.

Repeat the exercise for broadband speeds & phone packages, and thus get a combination of services that the person-in-question is looking for. Then you're a lot more informed when you come to deal with CS. Please take this constructively when I suggest that reciting a verbal version of your first post to a retentions/sales agent is not likely to end well, and gives them an open door to upsell.

It shoudn't happen, but often does. So spend a little time with research first.

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Daniel_Et
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Hi @Cordy 👋 Thank you for your post and welcome to the Virgin Media Community 😀

We're sorry to hear you feel this way 😔

If you'd like to discuss the package and the options currently available, you can also contact us via WhatsApp on +447305 327 112.

Please let us know how you get on.

Regards,
Daniel

Hi japitts, thank you for reply and all your assumptions are correct... We did ring  VM athough frustratingly couldn't get across we didn't want like for like package with extra add-on for £20 less!

Hung up in the end as elderly mum was getting bit distressed with it all. I will definitely take your advice and appreciate response. 

Ps thanks for the link, it's a massive help! 

Your Virgin response has only served to infuriate me more...no response would have been better.....My mother is 89 doesn't have a laptop, doesn't use a smartphone, didn't even realise shes been paying almost £180 since last year and wouldn't stand a chance with CS on her own let alone know what WhatsApp is. Your bundles and terminolgy are a foreign language to my mum, your CS designed to do nothing more than confuse and contractually bind the vulnerable into another 18 months of over paying for packages that would suit a streaming, gaming, multi device, Netflix watching, digitally and online savvy family of 5. 

Shes 89 and just wants re-runs of the repair shop, couple of tea time quizzes, access to some cricket, tennis and darts and for the GP surgery to be able to contact her on landline. It shouldnt be this difficult.... Virgin aren't you blatantly and  shamelessly exploiting the vulnerable. Rant over! 

unisoft
Knows their stuff

@Cordy wrote:

Your Virgin response has only served to infuriate me more...no response would have been better.....My mother is 89 doesn't have a laptop, doesn't use a smartphone, didn't even realise shes been paying almost £180 since last year and wouldn't stand a chance with CS on her own let alone know what WhatsApp is. Your bundles and terminolgy are a foreign language to my mum, your CS designed to do nothing more than confuse and contractually bind the vulnerable into another 18 months of over paying for packages that would suit a streaming, gaming, multi device, Netflix watching, digitally and online savvy family of 5. 

Shes 89 and just wants re-runs of the repair shop, couple of tea time quizzes, access to some cricket, tennis and darts and for the GP surgery to be able to contact her on landline. It shouldnt be this difficult.... Virgin aren't you blatantly and  shamelessly exploiting the vulnerable. Rant over! 


Can you not get your mum to ring in and then pass control of negotiation with retentions to you by telling the VM staff she wants you to explain why she is calling in?

You'll probably ultimately have to go through the "Leaving Virgin" option on the phone rather than standard Customer Services for any chance to open up a negotiation and get package changed. Be firm with "I want to cancel all services", else you will not be taken seriously. They will ask you why and you explain and that normally opens a dialogue about package changes and pricing. It would mean a new 18 month contract, but the discount would be significant especially if she hasn't gone through this process before.

The VM Stream box works off broadband and is portable as works off WiFi so could be used in lounge during day and taken up to bedroom TV for evening/night, but it has no record function, but has the ability to stop and start subscriptions at any time (each is 30 days) and core Freeview + many other channels are free without subscription. You can probably get Broadband down to the M125 package as fast enough if she wants Broadband (for example uses Catch Up TV services or getting a Stream box instead of standard coaxial cable tv box). Getting VM Stream if you have existing cable tv set top box like Tivo/v6 or 360 is a bit more complicated, because they have to do 30 days notice on the existing TV first before allowing change to Stream box. I've done it previously, so it can be done. After the TV service disconnects you can then order the Stream separately which will mean a small break in TV services.

Personal opinion, but I would NOT recommend to use WhatsApp to contact VM to do this, as the forum is littered with customers complaining that what was agreed with staff on WhatsApp turns out not to be what was agreed and much more expensive than agreed a few days later when contracts come through. I would recommend ringing Virgin Retentions by phone around 08:40am to have the least chance of being in a queue. Its 0345 454 1111 from a mobile and usually comes out of inclusive minutes for Tariffs with unlimited calls or certain amount of minutes included, or 150 from Virgin landline phone.

Hi @Cordy,

I'm sorry you feel this way.

In order to look into this for you further, we'll send you a private message on here. Look out for the envelope in the top right-hand corner.

If you're on a portable device with a smaller screen, click on the icon in the top right-hand corner and select "messages" from the additional menu options.

Regards,
Daniel

Firstly thank you very much and very much appreciate your time taken in responding. You have given me some great suggestions to have a look in to. I did try the ringing and taking over negotiations but didnt get further than CS as got frustrated going round in circles getting nowhere and my mother was getting upset with whole thing so hung up. However after reading the advice given I am glad as will look into options further and then take your advice on making the call. Many thanks.