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Very high T3 timeouts - Dropping internet/low upload speeds

fjama13
On our wavelength

Hi,

Had issues with my virgin media broadband before and getting the hub 5 has been a godsend up til a couple of days ago when I noticed the upload speeds dropped dramatically and the connection periodically drops. I have looked at the router status and I have a very high number of T3 timeouts on the upstream channels - 174 timeouts on the 4th upstream channel (in bold). My neighbours have also reported similar issues with their upload speed so I think the issue is with the cab we are connected to.

I keep hitting a wall when I call up so can a senior engineer assist with this, please? I ask this as I reported this issue before and the engineer that came around said they were aware of an upstream problem and the cabinet is being looked into  - no fault reference number provided and probably bluffed to go to his next job. 

BQM graph for the 22nd when the issue started occurring - https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/63aec9592148939ee92bc0e80243fe31b3...

BQM live - https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/20fec4ae8ea479b397fce22246a50bc8c7...

My router status information is below

Cable Modem Status

Item

Status

Comments

Acquired Downstream Channel(Hz)

331000000

Locked

Ranged Upstream Channel(Hz)

49600000

Ranged

Provisioning State

Online

Operational

 

Upstream bonded channels

Channel

Frequency (Hz)

Power (dBmV)

Symbol Rate (ksps)

Modulation

Channel ID

0

49600000

36.8

5120

QAM 64

1

1

43100000

36.3

5120

QAM 64

2

2

36600000

36.3

5120

QAM 64

3

3

30100000

35.8

5120

QAM 64

4

4

23600000

35

5120

QAM 64

5

Upstream bonded channels

Channel

Channel Type

T1 Timeouts

T2 Timeouts

T3 Timeouts

T4 Timeouts

0

ATDMA

0

1

0

0

1

ATDMA

0

1

7

0

2

ATDMA

0

1

2

0

3

ATDMA

0

1

6

0

4

ATDMA

0

1

176

1

 

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fjama13
On our wavelength

Downstream bonded channels

Channel

Frequency (Hz)

Power (dBmV)

SNR (dB)

Modulation

Channel ID

1

331000000

8.8

40

QAM 256

25

2

275000000

7.5

39

QAM 256

18

3

283000000

7.9

39

QAM 256

19

4

291000000

8.6

40

QAM 256

20

5

299000000

8.9

40

QAM 256

21

6

307000000

8.9

40

QAM 256

22

7

315000000

8.7

40

QAM 256

23

8

323000000

8.9

40

QAM 256

24

9

339000000

9

40

QAM 256

26

10

347000000

9.3

40

QAM 256

27

11

355000000

9.5

40

QAM 256

28

12

363000000

9.4

40

QAM 256

29

13

371000000

9.3

40

QAM 256

30

14

379000000

9.7

40

QAM 256

31

15

387000000

9.4

40

QAM 256

32

16

395000000

9

40

QAM 256

33

17

403000000

8.3

40

QAM 256

34

18

411000000

8

40

QAM 256

35

19

419000000

7.8

40

QAM 256

36

20

427000000

7.6

40

QAM 256

37

21

435000000

8.2

40

QAM 256

38

22

443000000

8.2

40

QAM 256

39

23

451000000

7.8

40

QAM 256

40

24

459000000

7.3

41

QAM 256

41

25

467000000

7.1

40

QAM 256

42

26

475000000

7.2

41

QAM 256

43

27

483000000

7.2

40

QAM 256

44

28

491000000

7.3

40

QAM 256

45

29

499000000

7.5

40

QAM 256

46

30

507000000

7.4

41

QAM 256

47

31

515000000

7.2

41

QAM 256

48

 

Downstream bonded channels

Channel

Locked Status

RxMER (dB)

Pre RS Errors

Post RS Errors

1

Locked

40

0

0

2

Locked

39

2

0

3

Locked

39

1

0

4

Locked

40

0

0

5

Locked

40

0

0

6

Locked

40

0

0

7

Locked

40

2

0

8

Locked

40

0

0

9

Locked

40

0

0

10

Locked

40

0

0

11

Locked

40

0

0

12

Locked

40

1

0

13

Locked

40

0

0

14

Locked

40

0

0

15

Locked

40

0

0

16

Locked

40

0

0

17

Locked

40

0

0

18

Locked

40

2

0

19

Locked

40

1

0

20

Locked

40

1

0

21

Locked

40

1

0

22

Locked

40

0

0

23

Locked

40

1

0

24

Locked

41

2

0

25

Locked

40

2

0

26

Locked

41

0

0

27

Locked

40

3

0

28

Locked

40

3

0

29

Locked

40

0

0

30

Locked

41

0

0

31

Locked

41

3

0

 

fjama13
On our wavelength

Network Log from Hub 5 Router

Time

Priority

Description

25-11-2022 21:01:05

warning

DBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

25-11-2022 21:01:05

notice

US profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 6; Previous Profile: 12 13; New Profile: 11 13.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

25-11-2022 19:52:59

notice

US profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 6; Previous Profile: 11 13; New Profile: 12 13.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

25-11-2022 19:52:59

warning

DBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

25-11-2022 11:30:23

critical

Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

24-11-2022 20:18:25

warning

DBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

24-11-2022 20:18:25

notice

US profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 6; Previous Profile: 13; New Profile: 11 13.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

24-11-2022 19:17:02

notice

US profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 6; Previous Profile: 12 13; New Profile: 13.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

24-11-2022 19:17:02

warning

DBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

24-11-2022 19:16:38

notice

US profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 6; Previous Profile: 11 13; New Profile: 12 13.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

24-11-2022 19:16:38

warning

DBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

24-11-2022 11:48:59

critical

Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

24-11-2022 11:13:46

warning

DBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

24-11-2022 11:13:46

notice

US profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 6; Previous Profile: 12 13; New Profile: 11 13.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

24-11-2022 10:06:52

warning

DBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

24-11-2022 10:06:52

notice

US profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 6; Previous Profile: 11 13; New Profile: 12 13.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

23-11-2022 15:02:02

critical

Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

23-11-2022 14:46:21

warning

RNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power Exceeds Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

23-11-2022 14:46:21

warning

Dynamic Range Window violation

23-11-2022 14:04:26

critical

Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

23-11-2022 13:43:47

warning

RNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power Exceeds Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

23-11-2022 13:43:47

warning

Dynamic Range Window violation

23-11-2022 11:12:02

critical

Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

23-11-2022 11:02:35

warning

TCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

23-11-2022 11:02:35

critical

Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

23-11-2022 11:02:05

notice

US profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 6; Previous Profile: 13; New Profile: 11 13.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

23-11-2022 11:02:05

warning

Dynamic Range Window violation

23-11-2022 11:02:05

warning

RNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

23-11-2022 11:02:05

warning

DBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

23-11-2022 11:02:01

notice

REGISTRATION COMPLETE - Waiting for Operational status

23-11-2022 11:02:01

warning

TCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

23-11-2022 11:01:40

critical

No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

 

fjama13
On our wavelength

Hi,

Can someone from Virgin media take a look at this, please? I am now getting some packet loss affecting my ability to work from home.

The number of T3 timeouts has increased significantly (especially on the 4th upstream channel). I have restarted and made sure the coaxial cable is firmly screwed in (finger tight)

Upstream bonded channels

Channel

Channel Type

T1 Timeouts

T2 Timeouts

T3 Timeouts

T4 Timeouts

0

ATDMA

0

1

0

0

1

ATDMA

0

1

7

0

2

ATDMA

0

1

2

0

3

ATDMA

0

1

6

0

4

ATDMA

0

1

411

1



I think this requires an engineer visit.

When I use the virgin media service checker I get this:

fjama13_0-1669639540831.png
Can you advise what the issue is, the fault reference number and when it will be fixed, please?

Hi Fjama13. 

Welcome back to forum, thank you for posting once again. 

Sorry to see you are still having issues with your Broadband. 

I have had a look at our systems and it shows there is an outage, which will be fixed by 29th November 2022. Your outage type is SNR (signal noise ratio), your ticket number is F010286318.  

You can also call this number 👉 0800 561 0061 this will give you an update on your outage. 

Please let us know how you get on? Let us know if you need help with anything else we would love to help. 😊

Thank you. 

Ari - Forum Team


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fjama13
On our wavelength

Hi,

Excellent thanks for letting me know. Hopefully it gets fixed soon

fjama13
On our wavelength

Hi,

The number of T3 timeouts has increased considerably. When I check the service status online or by phone, there is no mention of the issue. But I am getting a significant number of T3 timeouts. Can you advise if the issue is being looked into? Is it possible for an engineer to be sent out to take a look, please? I am getting over 1000 T3 timeouts

Upstream bonded channels

Channel

Frequency (Hz)

Power (dBmV)

Symbol Rate (ksps)

Modulation

Channel ID

0

49600000

36.8

5120

QAM 64

1

1

43100000

36.3

5120

QAM 64

2

2

36600000

36.3

5120

QAM 64

3

3

30100000

35.8

5120

QAM 64

4

4

23600000

35

5120

QAM 64

5

Upstream bonded channels

Channel

Channel Type

T1 Timeouts

T2 Timeouts

T3 Timeouts

T4 Timeouts

0

ATDMA

0

1

0

0

1

ATDMA

0

1

0

0

2

ATDMA

0

1

0

0

3

ATDMA

0

1

0

0

4

ATDMA

0

1

1292

0

 

fjama13
On our wavelength

Hi,

I have posted several times about this issue to no avail, and frankly, this is unacceptable. As shown in the earlier posts on this thread, my broadband is experiencing problems, and the information from the hub shows this. When the power of the line is out of spec, or a user is getting a high number of T3 timeouts on some posts, an engineer is sent without hesitation, but in my case, I am still chasing for an update.

Moreover, when I call the service status line, they say there are no issues in my area. I am tired of constantly chasing when my service is being degraded. Can a person from the VM forum team please respond and arrange for an engineer to come out to investigate, as you would agree that anyone getting T3 timeout in the hundreds would incident that there is an issue with the person's broadband?

If this fails, I will complain, as this is frankly unacceptable. I understand that getting help on here is no instant, but I have created several threads over the last six months advising of upstream issues and a high number of T3 timeouts and nothing was done to resolve this.

Hey @fjama13, thanks for reaching back out to us on the forums.

I'm sorry to hear about the issue with the services 😞
I've had a look for you and I can see that there is an SNR issue in the area affecting the services.
Because of this - if we were to book an engineer, it would be cancelled by the system automatically with no option for manual override due to the network issue causing the problem.

The estimated repair time for this is for the 16th December 2022 at around 10am.
We can check back then to see how the status of the services are.

Kind regards,
Ilyas.

Ilyas_Y
Forum Team

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fjama13
On our wavelength

I've had an email alert to advise it's been resolved. But the number of T3 timeouts is in the hundreds. Frankly unacceptable. Can this be escalated please? The upstream channels has a modulation of 16QAM. Frankly this is causing a loss in service as the upload speeds is below the minimum threshold stated in the contract.

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
04960000036.85120QAM 161
14310000036.35120QAM 162
23660000036.35120QAM 163
33010000035.35120QAM 164
42360000035.35120QAM 165

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
0ATDMA0000
1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0000
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0010820