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When will the massive speed drops in Kilburn (NW6) end?

sowilo
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I'm on the M500 plan and what you see in the screenshot above has been going on every other day for more than 2 months now. The upload in particular is so bad that it suffocates the connection altogether. I'm tired of calling the service desk about the same thing again and again and nothing changes, they just tell you to wait 24 hours and see what happens. And seeing the service status website show me there are no issues in the area is simply infuriating. Engineers have come here twice and not been able to do anything because apparently it's 'an outage'. I don't know what the state of the infrastructure in the area is, but I'd guess pretty bad if this keeps happening. I've been a customer for years and never had that many issue as over the past few months, the service has been very unreliable and frustrating.

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Hi sowilo, 

Thanks for your post and apologies to hear you're having an issue with your connection. 

Taking a look at this end, there is no open fault showing currently. Your signal levels and power levels are not within the optimal range and the hub is showing out of spec. 

The only thing we can do from here is book another engineer as this isn't something we can remotely fix. I just need to confirm the address to ensure we are booking the visit on the correct account. 

Thanks, 

Kath_F
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jbrennand
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Can you double check on the “free & automated” Service Status number - 0800 561 0061 - which usually gives the most up to date info. and tells you of more local issues down to postcode level.

Meanwhile to record the connection data can you do a BQM.....

If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Hi John,

Thanks for responding, I just called the service status number and they don't have any issues registered in the area. I'll look into setting up the broadband quality monitor you've suggested, sounds very useful, thanks for that. What I can say outright is that the issue is not Wi-Fi related, my main computer is connected to the VM Hub directly via a Cat 6 Ethernet cable. At least the issue goes away fairly quickly lately when it happens. It used to be really bad in June, would last for hours sometimes.

jbrennand
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OK as soon as the BQM is up - post the link

Then also the rest of the Hub data as per.....
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In your browser’s URL box type in http://192.168.0.1 (or http://192.168.100.1 - if in modem mode) (DONT click these links) - and hit return. On the first page up dont login (unless you have the Hub4/5 - when you do login) just click on the “router status” icon/text at bottom-middle (Hub3/4) of the Login page and then Navigate to these “pages” and just copy/paste the normal “Formatted Text” (not images) 3 FULL sets of data onto here – 2 tables from the Downstream, 2 from the Upstream, & the Network Logs page. Don't worry too much about the formatting it can be easily read & DON’T include personal data or MAC addresses - blank them out - if you copy/paste the data, the board software will do this for you (you may need to click the "submit" button again. If character limits are “exceeded” - just do two posts

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

BQM Live Graph

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

1290750000-1.538256 qam20
2138750000-6.936256 qam1
3146750000-3.737256 qam2
4154750000-2.238256 qam3
5162750000-1.238256 qam4
6170750000-0.538256 qam5
7178750000038256 qam6
81867500000.538256 qam7
9194750000038256 qam8
102027500000.240256 qam9
11210750000038256 qam10
12218750000038256 qam11
13226750000-0.438256 qam12
14234750000-0.538256 qam13
15242750000-0.538256 qam14
16250750000-0.538256 qam15
17258750000-0.238256 qam16
18266750000-0.538256 qam17
19274750000-0.738256 qam18
20282750000-138256 qam19
21298750000-0.738256 qam21
22306750000-138256 qam22
23314750000-0.238256 qam23
24322750000-0.438256 qam24



Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked38.918574141749005
2Locked36.637768737721429
3Locked37.333213346786747
4Locked38.9337857910131313
5Locked38.945356629636918
6Locked38.940641125264492
7Locked38.636983907721914
8Locked38.926921945755275
9Locked38.920902992243779
10Locked40.317795741888223
11Locked38.918292321916381
12Locked38.921392462079614
13Locked38.921436852074702
14Locked38.921513592175829
15Locked38.922595132160577
16Locked38.920987192035730
17Locked38.920027991874755
18Locked38.620857582375882
19Locked38.620599641994236
20Locked38.917826561646591
21Locked38.620208452138434
22Locked38.917621071723396
23Locked38.615747231520617
24Locked38.916048081616715

 

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

16030000745.5512064 qam1
23939994744.5512032 qam4
34619994245512064 qam3
45369998645.5512064 qam2



Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0050
2ATDMA0040
3ATDMA0030
4ATDMA0050

 

Network Log

Time Priority Description

10/08/2022 16:38:36criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 16:14:44noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 14:02:3Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 14:02:3Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:56:4Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:56:4Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:55:34Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:55:34Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:55:32Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:55:32criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:53:53Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:53:52criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:53:20Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:53:20Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:51:3Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:51:3Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:50:33Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:50:32criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:50:12Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/08/2022 13:50:4criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

jbrennand
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Connection stats are bad. Down power levels are too widely spread -6.0 - 0 dBmV - and -6.0 is below the minimum level.

Masses of PostRS errors is not good either neither are the T3 errors and dropping qam. Logs look awful too.

This will need a Tech visit to adjust - but can you start from a clean sheet like this.
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Switch the Hub off and unplug it from the mains supply for five minutes. Whilst it's off, do a quick check that all of your coax and ethernet cable connections are in nice and "finger" tight - at the Hub and wall box and also at any connectors etc. Ensure there are no “unterminated cable loose ends. Disconnect all the connections and reconnect to be sure. Also check that the internal wiring is ok with no kinking or chaffing, check that all looks good with the outside cabling and wall box (no “staples, etc.,) piercing the cables. Then switch the Hub back on and leave ~5 minutes
When all done, check back in the settings and ensure that the RS error counts and T3 errors have all reset to 0.

Then check every hour or so to see if they start reappearing - they shouldn't. If they do (particularly the postRS and T3 ones) you have a problem (noise) that only a Tech visit will sort.

Post up the stats again in a few hours

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Hi,

I've followed your instructions, the hub just came back up and has been on for 5 minutes. Here's what I see in the status:

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked38.900
2Locked36.310
3Locked37.350
4Locked38.650
5Locked38.940
6Locked38.6150
7Locked38.950
8Locked38.640
9Locked38.900
10Locked40.350
11Locked38.900
12Locked38.650
13Locked38.650
14Locked38.960
15Locked38.960
16Locked38.600
17Locked38.650
18Locked38.950
19Locked38.940
20Locked38.9110
21Locked38.900
22Locked38.600
23Locked38.960
24Locked38.650

 

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0000
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0000

 

I'll make another post in a few hours to let you know if that's changed.

Interestingly, I also got the following email from Virgin Media today:

"We’re carrying out essential works to modernise and future-proof our network in your area on Tue 16 Aug. This should improve your connection so you can carry on enjoying the things you love most. Your services might be affected for a little while on the day, but we should have you back up and running again at around 6pm."

Regards

This is what I'm seeing now:

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked38.936501096426
2Locked37.61130178856613
3Locked37.6626826698282
4Locked38.96885781281936
5Locked38.611495931688965
6Locked38.9603178759539
7Locked38.910061441038528
8Locked38.9539166622360
9Locked38.9468376130301
10Locked40.339932948325
11Locked38.636798588057
12Locked38.9465288137089
13Locked38.942847783250
14Locked38.639687070195
15Locked38.9442364124016
16Locked38.942241378662
17Locked38.631341581945
18Locked38.9384825189067
19Locked38.6368890156619
20Locked38.628297351038
21Locked38.6436936245636
22Locked38.9356775143288
23Locked38.931709122122
24Locked38.936530533898

 

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0000
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0000

Hi sowilo, 

Thanks for your post and apologies to hear you're having an issue with your connection. 

Taking a look at this end, there is no open fault showing currently. Your signal levels and power levels are not within the optimal range and the hub is showing out of spec. 

The only thing we can do from here is book another engineer as this isn't something we can remotely fix. I just need to confirm the address to ensure we are booking the visit on the correct account. 

Thanks, 

Kath_F
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