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Constant Dropouts

JamieHD
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My broadband keeps dropping out, every time I contact for advice I get different information most of which are crazy like I'm not paying enough for it to work properly and if I upgrade then it will fix it. I have also been told that I have too many devices (I don't have that many). Every time I run diagnostics it says there is a connection issue but the tech team are not interested. I'm pretty sure the Hub isn't working as it's a Hub3? I have reset the hub almost weekly. 

I just want my internet to be stable, and not drop out every hour. 

Can someone help me I'm at the end of my tether. 

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g0akc
Problem sorter

Can you confirm this is with wired, not just WiFi connections?

connect to hub3 - 192.168.0.1 [or 192.168.100.1 if in modem mode] - DON'T SIGN IN, click - click router status [centre of screen] - and post the downstream and upstream figures - to see those press on the grey buttons/boxes labelled - upstream - downstream

also set up a BQM

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I know a bit about Wi-Fi, Telecoms, and TV as I used to do it for a living but I'm not perfect so don't beat me up... If you make things you make mistakes!

Hey,

so basically everything is on Wi-Fi except the Hub for my smart lights but because they are not connected to the internet all the time they don’t notice the drop out.

Because I have been asked to reset the router every week I haven’t logged in to the hub yet this “cycle” 

 

jbrennand
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Can you check on an ethernet cable connected device to see if that remains connected when a wifi device drops.

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

I don’t have many devices that actually have Ethernet ports, all of my Mac devices are Wi-Fi only.

I have checked with my smart alarm, because that drops out and goes to cellular back up often and one weekend for a whole weekend 

jbrennand
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I am Mac only and I can connect any of my multiple devices by using a RJ45-port adapter - depending on what ports the devices have.

I have them for USB3, USBc, Thunderbolt, Firewirewire and they all work perfectly well.

Post up the data requested above and also see this...
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If it does turn out to be a wifi only issue, then on a Hub3/4/5, you can try separating the SSID's of the 2.4 and 5 GHz wifi bands by renaming them in the settings and at the same time switch off "channel optimisation/Smart wifi” “ apply and save the settings. All wifi devices will need reconnecting to the best SSID at each location. Also use a wifi scanning App to find the best wifi channels to use (just select and use channels 1,6,11 on 2.4GHz) - this often helps Hub users get better wifi performance - but its still no substitute for getting better kit 🙂

To address the wifi issues, VM now supply “wifi Pods” (no longer doing cheap and cheerless “boosters”). However, their Pods are only free to customers on the 1GB, Ultimate Oomph or Volt packages - is that you? If so they are worth trying - they should work for you.
You do have to call in to order them (cant do it online) - or just wait here for a VM person to respond in a day or two and they will sort the first one for you .

If not… you will be charged £5/month (note - BT charge £10/month for their whole home wifi solution). It’s a simple solution and should work for you. However, you would soon pay off that cost by buying your own wireless solution that will be yours to own and use forever, but it isn’t the simple plug and play option of the Pod(s).

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Hi,

How do I set up a BQM?

Here is the requested data thank you in advance

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

13310000005.540256 qam25
2203000000640256 qam9
3211000000640256 qam10
42190000006.340256 qam11
52270000006.140256 qam12
6235000000640256 qam13
7243000000640256 qam14
82510000005.940256 qam15
92590000005.840256 qam16
102670000005.640256 qam17
112750000005.840256 qam18
122830000005.540256 qam19
132910000005.840256 qam20
14299000000640256 qam21
153070000006.340256 qam22
163150000005.940256 qam23
173230000005.640256 qam24
183390000005.940256 qam26
193470000005.640256 qam27
203550000005.540256 qam28
21363000000540256 qam29
223710000005.540256 qam30
233790000005.640256 qam31
243870000005.440256 qam32



Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked40.91670
2Locked40.9188170
3Locked40.31320
4Locked40.9620
5Locked40.3820
6Locked40.9650
7Locked40.9730
8Locked40.31050
9Locked40.31600
10Locked40.91550
11Locked40.31220
12Locked40.31090
13Locked40.3530
14Locked40.3660
15Locked40.3740
16Locked40.31470
17Locked40.31650
18Locked40.3890
19Locked40.9860
20Locked40.3780
21Locked40.9780
22Locked40.3880
23Locked40.31120
24Locked40.3870

 

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

14619998844.8512064 qam11
23940000244.8512064 qam12
35370000744.8512064 qam10
46029999844.8512064 qam9



Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0030
2ATDMA0010
3ATDMA0030
4ATDMA0020

 

there was also loads of errors on there Network logs

Network Log

Time Priority Description

01/05/2022 06:23:33noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/05/2022 05:06:15noticeDHCP Renew - lease parameters tftp file-cmreg-vmdg505-bbt057-b.cm modified;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/05/2022 05:06:15ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
29/04/2022 23:27:25criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
27/04/2022 17:06:15noticeDHCP Renew - lease parameters tftp file-cmreg-vmdg505-bbt057-b.cm modified;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
27/04/2022 17:06:15ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/04/2022 20:50:24criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/04/2022 05:06:14noticeDHCP Renew - lease parameters tftp file-cmreg-vmdg505-bbt057-b.cm modified;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/04/2022 05:06:14ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/04/2022 00:14:16criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
20/04/2022 19:14:20noticeDHCP Renew - lease parameters tftp file-cmreg-vmdg505-bbt057-b.cm modified;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
20/04/2022 19:14:20ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
17/04/2022 06:29:21criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
17/04/2022 01:58:14noticeDHCP Renew - lease parameters tftp file-cmreg-vmdg505-bbt057-b.cm modified;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
17/04/2022 01:58:14ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
13/04/2022 13:58:14noticeDHCP Renew - lease parameters tftp file-cmreg-vmdg505-bbt057-b.cm modified;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
13/04/2022 13:58:14ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/04/2022 12:12:27criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/04/2022 01:58:14noticeDHCP Renew - lease parameters tftp file-cmreg-vmdg505-bbt057-b.cm modified;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
10/04/2022 01:58:14ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

g0akc
Problem sorter

You can set up a BQM at thinkbroadband - see this link;

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

You can then put a link to it on here.

You will need to find your public IP address - just use a site like whatsmyip

 

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I know a bit about Wi-Fi, Telecoms, and TV as I used to do it for a living but I'm not perfect so don't beat me up... If you make things you make mistakes!

g0akc
Problem sorter

Those broadband stats look OK to me.  The T3 timeouts and error log entry are pretty normal (the hub will do retries and then succeed).  The 170 post errors are interesting but not overly concerning - you can reboot the hub to rest the counter and see if those numbers grow again.

the main thing now (aside from monitoring with the BQM) is to determine if it's your broadband - the connection to your hub - or wireless/networking within your home - you really need a wired connection to do that.

I have a thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter for my MacBook - it wasn't expensive - mine was a used Genuine Apple one off fleabay for less than a tenner (I have Windows laptops too).  Look at getting yourself one.

Meanwhile you can do some wireless troubleshooting. Try using a free wifi analyser (free version NetSpot works well on a MacBook) see if that shows anything. Or app on a smartphone. Clashing with neighbours?

 

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I know a bit about Wi-Fi, Telecoms, and TV as I used to do it for a living but I'm not perfect so don't beat me up... If you make things you make mistakes!