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Hi there Rose,
I’m in the Meridian area of Chatham but Channel 103 only gives us London regional news. One of the super users on the forum was fairly blunt in saying you would be unable to help in this regard, even with SD channels. 101 gives us SE BBC so I cannot see how you cannot direct Meridian TV to channel 103 for us in this region. It makes no sense to me.
Thanks. Sean.
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@seaniepie wrote:
I cannot see how you cannot direct Meridian TV to channel 103 for us in this region. It makes no sense to me.
Thanks. Sean.

The cable headend supplying Chatham is at Basildon in Essex. The area downstream of this headend includes all of the medway towns, Dartford, Southend & a large slice of east & southeast London. I'm sure the all the customers in this area would soon complain if they were receiving Meridian on 103 (Which is the only way you would get it). There are 2 things you are stuck with.

1) Cable networks were built to a plan drawn up by a government body that was only interested in making the maximum amount of money. This resulted in a lot of less lucrative areas in terms of population being "lumped in" with bigger areas. (London's networks  go up as far as Bedford to the north, & Basingstoke to the west).

2) Everyone in a franchise area gets the same channels on the same numbers. There is no technical way to sub-divide network region. The only altrenative was to "add" further local feeds on unused channels where this was feasable. If you have any of these feeds, you will find them on channel 858 for BBC, or 870/871 for ITV.

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Rose seems to think she can do something about it.
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@seaniepie wrote:
Rose seems to think she can do something about it.

falluak has an NIT issue with the box where it is not recognising where the local frequency is. The box therefore replaces 101 with channel 861 which is the default config for an unprogrammed box.

 

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So what can be done to sort this?
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CS Can try sending a signal to your box with the correct NIT for the cable headend you are connected too. If the box does not retain it then it needs replacing.

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So, if a box can be configuered to swap a number, how comes we can't have that for everyone? The Box knows where we are, what region we are in. Why can't the software (speaking as a software engineer, knowing how EASY PEASY LEMON SQUEEZY this is) swap 870 or whatever for 103 and so on? I really can;t see what's so flipping difficult. It's got nothing (NOTHING!) to do with regions set out by the government back in the ark ages. It's not like we are not getting the signal for the South East. We just need it setting to auto-swap the channel numbers. About 2 or 3 lines of code. It's not like they need to rewire the county just to swap some numbers on 'some' devices.

 
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@seaniepie wrote:

So, if a box can be configuered to swap a number, how comes we can't have that for everyone? The Box knows where we are, what region we are in. Why can't the software (speaking as a software engineer, knowing how EASY PEASY LEMON SQUEEZY this is) swap 870 or whatever for 103 and so on? I really can;t see what's so flipping difficult. It's got nothing (NOTHING!) to do with regions set out by the government back in the ark ages. It's not like we are not getting the signal for the South East. We just need it setting to auto-swap the channel numbers. About 2 or 3 lines of code. It's not like they need to rewire the county just to swap some numbers on 'some' devices.

 

Swap no. Add Yes.

The boxes are headend linked & NIT's are the same for each box on that headend. They do not know where in that headend area they are, be it Chatham or Chingford. There is no postcode database to reference too on cable TV systems.

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That’s just shortsighted. Every box is connected to the internet and therefore has an ip which, with a very simple lookup, can detect where it is located. From that it can make decisions on what to do with itself. It is not purely connected via an old fashioned cable with no other connection to the outside world. NITs are just part of the story.
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@seaniepie wrote:
That’s just shortsighted. Every box is connected to the internet and therefore has an ip which, with a very simple lookup, can detect where it is located. From that it can make decisions on what to do with itself. It is not purely connected via an old fashioned cable with no other connection to the outside world. NITs are just part of the story.

Only until a few years ago have new boxes had internet connectivity. The previous generation boxes run on a platform called "Liberate", which is entirely internal to the cable infrastructure. The authorisation system still relies on an internal system driven direct through the coax from the local headend, & this is common to all "closed" cable systems (where you rent the equipment as well as the channels) as it is more secure. Only cable infrastructure built on an open system where customers can use their own purchased kit operates differently.

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