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rm09ba
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virus safe option

At the moment, virus safe is either on or off.

Would it be good to have a third setting, such that when hitting a dodgy site, virus safe responded with an option "let me in, I understand the risk"? 

I didn't know I had virus safe turned on, but just recently it blocked me from a site which I use fairly regularly. I don't know how sophisticated the virus safe checks are, but it was a mainstream site which I suspect was perfectly okay (hence "the risk"). A "let me in" option would have been a helpful short cut.

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@rm09ba  wrote:

I didn't know I had virus safe turned on, but just recently it blocked me from a site which I use fairly regularly. I don't know how sophisticated the virus safe checks are, but it was a mainstream site which I suspect was perfectly okay (hence "the risk"). A "let me in" option would have been a helpful short cut.


An issue with that approach is that those asked to make the decision will more than likely be ill-equipped to assess the risk and will unnecessarily expose themselves and/or others to it; further compounded by lack of information contained in the Virus Safe warning.

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Actually, the issue is down to the Anti Virus vendor whom quite a few flag false positives.

They blame frames for carrying virii, and anything new that may have been added because it has not been checked by some of these so called detection engines.

If you had been using the site for a while with no issues and all of a sudden this happens, i would have disabled the anti virus, or added the site to the exclusions list in the Anti Virus settings.

I believe that Virgin use F-Prot or a variation of it. I used to swear by it many many years ago until it started flagging up all manner of programs i used as having trojans, keygens, and all manner of junk i knew to be untrue. How did i know ? I used an assembler to go through the code to see where it was jumping from and too and to see what could be setting it off. A lot of it was due to the program being updated by the actual vendor, and F-Prot not recognising the signatures and flagging it as a false positive.

Best method is to follow your own instinct.

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@Dominatez wrote:

If you had been using the site for a while with no issues and all of a sudden this happens, i would have disabled the anti virus, or added the site to the exclusions list in the Anti Virus settings.


AFAICS there is no whitelisting option for Virus Safe warnings.

No idea what Virgin Media use for Virus Safe but simply going on the basis that it was fine before so likely to be false positive is risky behaviour for most users.

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In fact, since Virus Safe doesn't give away any information about why it has decided to block a site, it's impossible to determine the risk, other than to make an assessment based on what you know about the site you are trying to get to. So VS blocks a site I use. I report it, but it stays blocked. No idea why. The obvious action for me is just to turn VS off permanently, as it is getting in the way. Which I think is more risky than having the tool issue a warning but with a "let me in anyway" button.

Given VM gives the user the option to turn VS off completely, it seems like it could also give the user an option to have it on but with an override button. Not as risky as having it turned off permanently. Just a suggestion.

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Re: virus safe option

Well for months i have not been able to download my own files from filefactory

i mean i pay for 6 accounts so yes i was  really annoyed

then this morning my folders would not load either unless i was behind a VPN well i was getting rather irate over this

so i went in google and searched VM for default settings and what popped up WED SAFE both virus safe and child safe was set to ON

as default

Why do we need these if 1 we dont have kids and 2 we have an anti virus capable of catching all the nasties out there

what gives VM the right to turn these on without our say so and not even tell us

All we got was oh its your DNS it needs changing to 8.8.8.8.8 the google DNS  rubbish

go here turn them all off IT WORKS

https://my.virginmedia.com/my-apps/onlinesecurity/websafe/settings.html

Its up to you not VM to turn stuff on and off at will

if u have a decent anti virus  plus  anything else to keep you safe what do we want with all this  web safe crud

because its more trouble than it worth

 

 

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Yep. a white list would be fine - in fact it's a necessity when the 'Virus safe' doesn't quote the offending site! I have recently had three occasions when some site or other has triggered it but with no idea what the cause was. Since I'm experiencing tabs opening with news from Microsoft that my computer is imploding and that they'll sort it out for me, I think Web Safe might be onto something but it refuses to divulge what the site is.  Malwarebytes runs on my machine and finds nothing, though...

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