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Do I have a latency issue?

HergestPhil
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I was on 250Mbps via a SuperHub 3, but yesterday switched to 1Gbps via Superhub 5.

I initially had a bit of a flakey connection, but reconnected the copper cable to the white wall socket that hadn't been tightened by the engineer properly.  Rebooted router.  BMQ now looks mostly okay, Router stats not too bad.

But various speed/latency/bufferbloat tests give quite a wide range of results.  I was expecting better quality than with the Hub 3, but it felt like I had a more consistent quality connection with my hub 3 250Mbps connection, lower average ping for example playing some games, such as Rocket League.

My Upstream seems rock solid, with all tests showing consistent 100Mbps with low active load latency (grade A on the buffer bloat test, +2ms latency).

It's the download that seems a bit flakey still (buffer bloat test often reports a grade E downstream, with my downstream active load latency at +54ms).

Download speed tests seem to report varying figures, averaging around 780Mbps, running on a PC connected with gigabit ethernet.

Downstream power levels for channels range between 3.8 to 7.5, SNR 41-42.  Over a 24 hour period, I seem to have accululated in the range of 4 to 13 Pre RS errors on each channel.  No Post RS errors though.

3.1 Downstream channels, Active Profile corrected errors is now over 875M (no uncorrectable errors though).

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HergestPhil
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I have noticed a small amount of packet loss on BMQ graph.

2am - 9am had a more consistent latency.  I see more variance in the average latency and maximum latency this afternoon/evening.

HergestPhil
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Waveform Buffer Bloat test:

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HergestPhil
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This seems to suggest that perhaps the connection from the hub to desktop PC (via ethernet cable) is introducing additional latency and jitter.  Are all ports equal on the Hub 5?  Perhaps the ethernet cable should be replaced (it's not marked what grade it is - blue colour, I think it came with the Hub 3).  Would Cat 5E be fine, or should I get Cat 6 or higher?

legacy1
Alessandro Volta

Your connection looks fine Buffer Bloat happens on load as to how limiting handles traffic which you may be buffer at the hub normally on lower speed package or at VM gateway to buffer as HFQ should their be load by others in your area meaning you can't hit your full speed.

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HergestPhil
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I am less worried about full speed, more worried about latency.  It seems that when I run Rocket League now, I am seeing slightly higher pings (maybe 5-10ms higher than I used to see).  On the BMQ graph during prime times, I am seeing more blue colour than previously, meaning my average ping has more variance (jitter?).  I do wonder if the connection from router to PC is actually adding a bit more latency, and will try to get a new CAT 5E or 6 cable, if that could be the problem?

carl_pearce
Community elder

All looks normal for a VM connection using DOCSIS.

In fact it looks like a very good connection in your area.

My area for comparison (Rebooted at 8pm!):

Technically there could be a fault in the area, however unsure if VM would acknowledge.

Assuming your HUB 5 is on the latest firmware what do the upstream stats look like?

Here are my downstream stats:

3.0 Downstream channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
13310000005.340QAM 25625
21790000007.542QAM 2566
31870000007.642QAM 2567
41950000007.742QAM 2568
52030000007.542QAM 2569
62110000007.442QAM 25610
72190000007.342QAM 25611
82270000007.242QAM 25612
92350000007.142QAM 25613
10243000000742QAM 25614
112510000006.742QAM 25615
122590000006.441QAM 25616
132670000006.341QAM 25617
142750000006.141QAM 25618
152830000005.941QAM 25619
162910000005.841QAM 25620
172990000005.741QAM 25621
183070000005.841QAM 25622
193150000005.741QAM 25623
203230000005.640QAM 25624
213390000005.341QAM 25626
223470000005.141QAM 25627
233550000005.141QAM 25628
243630000004.941QAM 25629
253710000004.841QAM 25630
26379000000541QAM 25631
273870000004.841QAM 25632
283950000004.641QAM 25634
294030000004.541QAM 25635
304110000004.341QAM 25636
314190000004.241QAM 25637

3.0 Downstream channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1Locked40260
2Locked42240
3Locked42160
4Locked42260
5Locked42180
6Locked42210
7Locked42170
8Locked42130
9Locked42170
10Locked42130
11Locked42290
12Locked41200
13Locked41120
14Locked41290
15Locked41200
16Locked41260
17Locked41260
18Locked41300
19Locked41320
20Locked40250
21Locked41390
22Locked41350
23Locked41440
24Locked41440
25Locked41470
26Locked41560
27Locked41380
28Locked41490
29Locked41420
30Locked41270
31Locked41420

3.1 Downstream channels

Channel Channel Width (MHz) FFT Type Number of Active Subcarriers Modulation (Active Profile) First Active Subcarrier (Hz)
33944K1840QAM 40961108

3.1 Downstream channels

Channel ID Locked Status RxMER Data (dB) PLC Power (dBmV) Corrected errors (Active Profile) Uncorrectable errors (Active Profile)
33Locked413.230162349185

HergestPhil
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Here's the upstream stats:

3.0 Upstream channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
04960000041.35120QAM 641
14310000040.55120QAM 642
23660000040.35120QAM 643
33010000039.85120QAM 644
42360000039.35120QAM 645

3.0 Upstream channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
0ATDMA0000
1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0000
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0000

3.1 Upstream channels

Channel Channel Width (MHz) Power (dBmV) FFT Type Modulation
1210.437.22KQAM 256

3.1 Upstream channels

Channel Channel Type Number of Active Subcarriers First Active Subcarrier (Hz) T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
12OFDMA2087400000000

HergestPhil
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I have noticed that I get a lag spike, often associated with packet loss, repeatedly exactly every 8 hours, just before 6am, 2pm, 10pm.  Seems to happen every day at exactly the same time.

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