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adelphiaUK
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7 months ago
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HUB 5 and Own Router

Hi. I'm just wondering if anyone has tried using their own router and the Virgin Media hub5 working together but not in modem mode?

If you use them side-by-side and disable the DHCP on the Virgin hub5, would this work?

I understood the issues with two routers is that you have to disable DHCP on one of them so one of them only distributes the IP addresses.

I may try it myself at some point, but I was wondering if anybody else has already tried, so that I don't get myself in a predicament.

Isn't it a case of setting the IP address statically on both devices such that they don't clash and disabling the DHCP on the Virgin hub?

If this works would that not also give you additional Wi-Fi coverage by having both Wi-Fis enabled, or could that additionally cause conflicts?

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

 

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  • jpeg1's avatar
    jpeg1
    7 months ago

    If you mean connect them in parallel on the coax, no it certainly won't work. The Hub decodes the signal, your modem can't do that. 

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  • jpeg1's avatar
    jpeg1
    Alessandro Volta
    7 months ago

    If you mean connect them in parallel on the coax, no it certainly won't work. The Hub decodes the signal, your modem can't do that. 

    • adelphiaUK's avatar
      adelphiaUK
      Up to speed
      7 months ago

      I hadn't thought of that part! Thanks for saving me a lot of agro!

      • adelphiaUK's avatar
        adelphiaUK
        Up to speed
        7 months ago

        Oh. I just read it more carefully and I missed the word coax.

        No I don't mean on the coax. What I mean is connect the Virgin hub5 as it would be to your internet connection. Then go into the settings and disable the DHCP and also change the IP address to something like 192.1.0.2.

        Then, connect your own mesh router, or whatever router you have  directly to the Virgin hub using a Cat5e or Cat6 cable to any of the ports on the Virgin hub5.

        Finally, go into your own router settings,  which will hopefully be 192.168.0.1, and change the configuration as necessary to enable it to give out the necessary IP addresses and still make an internet connection via the Hub5 via the Cat5e cable.

        This is getting very difficult for me to try and explain right now as my medication is kicking in which makes my head go woo.

  • jpeg1's avatar
    jpeg1
    Alessandro Volta
    7 months ago

    If the Hub is in modem mode your own router provides one network. 

    If the Hub is in router mode you can use one port as a network, and another port to feed your own router running a separate network. but that will be double NAT.

    My bed is calling. 

  • Tudor's avatar
    Tudor
    Very Insightful Person
    7 months ago

    A lot of hassle like that. All VM hubs work best in modem mode, they have less functions to run, like DHCP, switching, WiFi, etc. I’ve always run my VM hubs in modem mode and have hardly any problems.

  • Wolfclaw's avatar
    Wolfclaw
    Superfast
    7 months ago

    Yes, you can connect the WAN port of the router to the hub LAN and it would then create separate network within the hubs network, you would just have to change the network ranges, so say the Hub is giving off address in the 192.168.0.1 range, set your router to static address of say

    IP 192.168.0.254
    Subnet : 255.255.255.0
    Gateway/DNS : 192.168.0.1

    and your routers DHCP range to 192.168.1.1

    I would disable firewall and NAT on the router to stop issues.

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta
    7 months ago

    Did you consider using VM Hub in Router mode + a 3rd party Router in Access Point mode ?

  • legacy1's avatar
    legacy1
    Alessandro Volta
    7 months ago

    I'm sure VM are like YES but we want a proper setup NO!