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- gilbo2Dialled in
I have the same issue with Gmail. I have tried to report as NOT Phishing but it has not made any difference, Gmail thinks all community emails are "dangerous/not safe".
- AdduxiVery Insightful Person
Yes, same here with GMail. No big deal really, more of a slight annoyance having to drag the emails to the Inbox.
- coenobyVery Insightful Person
See my recent post explaining that along with an update here: https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Email/virgin-mail-settings
Coenoby
- Kei_MCommunity Manager
Hi all, thanks for raising for this.
Yahoo and Google made some security updates earlier this year which means we have to update our email configuration but we were already in the process of changing our configuration for another of our domains which may have a knock on impact so we're just trying to bundle all the changes in together so it may take a little bit longer than you'd expect.
Thanks,
- ravenstar68Very Insightful Person
Kei_M The issue is not with your domain itself, it's to do with the configuration of the outbound settings on the Khouros mail system.
Currently it's sending the mail with the following From: address.
From: Virgin Media Community Support
<VirginMediaCommunitySupport@virginmedia.co.uk>This is what I'd expect.
DMARC will use this domain when validating SPF and DKIM checks.
The Authentication results from Microsofts server shows what's happening.
Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 149.72.175.76)
smtp.mailfrom=em7732.eu.khoros-mail.com; dkim=pass (signature was verified)
header.d=eu.khoros-mail.com;dmarc=fail action=quarantine
header.from=virginmedia.co.uk;compauth=fail reason=000The SPF and DKIM checks pass but these are evaluated against the eu.khoros-mail.com domain.
Because the From: address is in the virginmedia.co.uk domain DMARC fails because SPF and DKIM are not evaluated against this domain.
How to fix this.
Ask Khoros if it's possible to amend the DKIM settings on the outbound messaging so it signs it with a virginmedia.co.uk DKIM signature instead of a khoros one.
AND/OR
Ask khoros if it's possible to modify the mail from: address of the outbound mails so it falls in the virginmedia.co.uk domain (mail from: is the envelope sender, which can differ from the From: address)
For DMARC to pass only one verification method needs to succeed either DKIM or SPF - but the domains of the checks MUST be aligned.
This should be a quick fix and if you use DKIM - all you have to do is add a single TXT DNS entry to the virginmedia.co.uk domain with the public DKIM key used to validate the signature.
Tim
- ravenstar68Very Insightful Person
To add to the above - there's nothing wrong with your SPF record either.
As a test I popped the khoros server IP into Kitterman's SPF checker and instead of using khoros' mail from: identity I used the address in your From: header
Here's the results
Mail sent from this IP address: 149.72.175.76 Mail from (Sender): VirginMediaCommunitySupport@virginmedia.co.uk Results - PASS sender SPF authorized
In short - you don't need to be modifying your domains, you just need to talk to Khoros. As they send on behalf of multiple domains - they should have a mechanism for dealing with this issue.
Tim
- ravenstar68Very Insightful Person
If you need more information, drop me a PM and I'll let you have a full header.
- mda99dasUp to speed
I have same issues with gmail
- Kei_MCommunity Manager
Thanks ravenstar68 👍 - let me raise it with Khoros
- boothy99Fibre optic
Thanks for the heads-up on this post, Roy ... I just discovered my VM community reply alerts dumped in my spam folder too.
- roy247Superstar
Keep checking your spam folder is all I can say as not much appears to be happening from Virgin's end.
- pinemanOn our wavelength
I have the same issue with iCloud email. Have tried using different email clients but it's still the same.
- Kei_MCommunity Manager
No further forward I'm afraid but still working on it, they'd like us to setup a subdomain first before reconfiguring the settings. They don't fully support sender addresses that share a domain with our top-level domain or community domain for that matter.
Thanks,
- roy247Superstar
So Kei_M another 8 weeks has gone by with no update, what do you do all day, are you a tea drinker or coffee drinker at the brew and chat area where nothing happens.
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