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fairless94
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2 years ago

Virgin Broadband packet loss

Today my broadband has been really unstable. I've noticed it while gaming. It works to browse internet or watch online video, but when gaming it jutters every 15 seconds or so. 

I think it is packet loss, i've switched from a TP link to a wired connection and its still happening, making gaming unplayable online. Any advice on how to fix this? Internet has been fine for almost 1 year, nothing changed here. Hub is only 1 year old. ISP tests seem normal, 350mb Download, 26 ping and 41 download latency.

For reference it happens on any game i play online so it cant be a specific server issue. 

  • jbrennand's avatar
    jbrennand
    Very Insightful Person

    Lets see the data - can you do this..

    In your browser’s URL box type in http://192.168.0.1 (or http://192.168.100.1 - if in modem mode) (DONT click these links) - and hit return. No need to log in - just click on the “Router Status” icon/text at bottom-middle (Hub3/4/5) or top/right (SH’s) - of the Login page.
    Then… Navigate to these “data pages” and just copy/paste the normal “Formatted Text” (not images) 3 FULL sets of data onto here – 2 tables from the Downstream, 2 from the Upstream, & the Network Logs pages. Don't worry too much about the formatting it can be easily read & DON’T include personal data or MAC addresses - blank them out - if you copy/paste the data, the board software will do this for you (you may need to click the "submit" button again). If character limits are “exceeded” - just do two posts

    Also, If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then, click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK
    https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

      • fairless94's avatar
        fairless94
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        3.0 Downstream channels

        Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
        13060000006.642QAM 25622
        21380000006.843QAM 2561
        31460000006.743QAM 2562
        41540000006.743QAM 2563
        51620000006.943QAM 2564
        61700000006.943QAM 2565
        71780000006.943QAM 2566
        81860000006.943QAM 2567
        91940000006.943QAM 2568
        102020000006.842QAM 2569
        112100000006.943QAM 25610
        122180000006.943QAM 25611
        132260000006.743QAM 25612
        142340000006.642QAM 25613
        152420000006.642QAM 25614
        162500000006.542QAM 25615
        172580000006.442QAM 25616
        182660000006.342QAM 25617
        192740000006.642QAM 25618
        202820000006.742QAM 25619
        212900000006.542QAM 25620
        222980000006.642QAM 25621
        233140000006.643QAM 25623
        243220000006.442QAM 25624
        253300000006.142QAM 25625
        263380000006.341QAM 25626
        273460000006.142QAM 25627
        283540000006.442QAM 25628
        293620000006.342QAM 25629
        303700000006.142QAM 25630
        31378000000642QAM 25631

        3.0 Downstream channels

        Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
        1Locked4227771385
        2Locked431255800
        3Locked431988244
        4Locked432007869
        5Locked4321012344
        6Locked4328623198
        7Locked4327743164
        8Locked4327883048
        9Locked4328562797
        10Locked4227092723
        11Locked4328042561
        12Locked4328022489
        13Locked4328992422
        14Locked4227312200
        15Locked4227501983
        16Locked4227721864
        17Locked4227741761
        18Locked4227921634
        19Locked4229021431
        20Locked4228291566
        21Locked4228661546
        22Locked4228281476
        23Locked4327691312
        24Locked4226831243
        25Locked4225071099
        26Locked412420905
        27Locked422352670
        28Locked422227708
        29Locked422162551
        30Locked422036491
        31Locked421966421

        3.0 Upstream channels

        Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
        04960000041.35120QAM 649
        14310000041.35120QAM 6410
        23660000040.85120QAM 6411
        33010000040.35120QAM 6412
        42360000040.35120QAM 6413

        3.0 Upstream channels

        Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
        0ATDMA0000
        1ATDMA0000
        2ATDMA0000
        3ATDMA0000
        4ATDMA0000

         

        General Configuration

        Network accessMaximum Number of CPEsBaseline PrivacyDOCSIS ModeConfig file
        Allowed
        3
        Enabled
        3.1
        yewrkldJKDHSUBsgvca69834ncxv9

        Primary Downstream Service Flow

        SFIDMax Traffic RateMax Traffic BurstMin Traffic RateSFIDMax Traffic RateMax Traffic BurstMin Traffic Rate
        192
        402500089 bps
        42600bytes
        0 bps
        15620
        128000 bps
        4000bytes
        0 bps

        Primary Upstream Service Flow

        SFIDMax Traffic RateMax Traffic BurstMin Traffic RateMax Concatenated BurstScheduling TypeSFIDMax Traffic RateMax Traffic BurstMin Traffic RateMax Concatenated BurstScheduling Type
        191
        38500089 bps
        42600bytes
        0 bps
        42600bytes
        Best Effort
        15619
        128000 bps
        4000bytes
        0 bps
        1522bytes
        Best Effort
    • fairless94's avatar
      fairless94
      Joining in

      I'm still getting issues, its really annoying. Virgin saying there is an intermittent problem but its been like this since yesterday.

      • jbrennand's avatar
        jbrennand
        Very Insightful Person

        What is being reported on the “free & automated” Service Status number - 0800 561 0061 - which usually gives the most up to date info. and tells you of more local issues and fix estimates, down to street cab/ postcode level?

  • Adding to this (and cross posting) as seeing similar for past two days (10 and 11 Nov). Packet loss to Azure/msn.net for PUBG on PC. Measured packet loss was ~14%, varies in game and results in network lag reported in game.

    Tested on the Xbox after seeing this, that is reporting similar levels of packet loss on the connection test.

    Destination address at time of testing was 20.218.127.109

     

    |                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
    |------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
    |                             192.168.0.1 -  100 |  228 |    1 |    3 |    3 |    3 |    3 |
    |                   No response from host -  100 |  228 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
    |swan-core-2b-ae19-650.network.virginmedia.net -    4 |  984 |  946 |    7 |   11 |   74 |    9 |
    |                   No response from host -  100 |  228 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
    |                   No response from host -  100 |  228 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
    | telw-ic-5-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net -    5 |  972 |  931 |   11 |   16 |   87 |   13 |
    |    virginmedia.ier03.lon32.ntwk.msn.net -   14 |  737 |  636 |   12 |   17 |   75 |   24 |
    |         ae31-0.icr01.lon22.ntwk.msn.net -   14 |  749 |  651 |   13 |   19 |   97 |   16 |
    |       be-100-0.ibr01.lon22.ntwk.msn.net -   14 |  749 |  651 |   24 |   31 |  190 |   31 |
    |        be-15-0.ibr01.ams30.ntwk.msn.net -   13 |  753 |  656 |   24 |   30 |  168 |   31 |
    |        be-14-0.ibr01.fra21.ntwk.msn.net -   12 |  777 |  686 |   24 |   29 |   87 |   27 |
    |        ae100-0.icr01.fra21.ntwk.msn.net -   14 |  749 |  651 |   23 |   30 |  100 |   43 |

     

    The connection seems to degrade between telw-ic-5-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net (62.253.174.186) and virginmedia.ier03.lon32.ntwk.msn.net (104.44.14.51).

    Tested briefly by tethering my PC to my mobile phone and the connection was much improved, albeit taking a different route.

    My broadband connection seems to have been stable, the dropped packets in this case are reboots of the hub.

    Logs from hub:

    Downstream

     

    Downstream bonded channels
    Channel	Frequency (Hz)	Power (dBmV)	SNR (dB)	Modulation	Channel ID
    1	331000000	7.5	38	256 qam	25
    2	203000000	8	40	256 qam	9
    3	211000000	8	38	256 qam	10
    4	219000000	8	40	256 qam	11
    5	227000000	7.8	38	256 qam	12
    6	235000000	7.5	38	256 qam	13
    7	243000000	7.5	38	256 qam	14
    8	251000000	7.4	40	256 qam	15
    9	259000000	7.5	38	256 qam	16
    10	267000000	7.5	40	256 qam	17
    11	275000000	7.5	38	256 qam	18
    12	283000000	7.8	40	256 qam	19
    13	291000000	7.9	38	256 qam	20
    14	299000000	8.4	38	256 qam	21
    15	307000000	8.3	40	256 qam	22
    16	315000000	8.3	38	256 qam	23
    17	323000000	7.8	38	256 qam	24
    18	371000000	7.1	40	256 qam	26
    19	379000000	7.5	38	256 qam	27
    20	387000000	7.5	40	256 qam	28
    21	395000000	7.5	40	256 qam	29
    22	403000000	7.5	40	256 qam	30
    23	411000000	7.5	38	256 qam	31
    24	419000000	7.1	38	256 qam	32
    
    
    Downstream bonded channels
    Channel	Locked Status	RxMER (dB)	Pre RS Errors	Post RS Errors
    1	Locked	38.9	5	0
    2	Locked	40.3	5	0
    3	Locked	38.9	4	0
    4	Locked	40.3	2	0
    5	Locked	38.9	5	0
    6	Locked	38.9	5	0
    7	Locked	38.9	5	0
    8	Locked	40.3	0	0
    9	Locked	38.9	7	0
    10	Locked	40.3	5	0
    11	Locked	38.9	5	0
    12	Locked	40.3	5	0
    13	Locked	38.9	7	0
    14	Locked	38.9	19	0
    15	Locked	40.3	6	0
    16	Locked	38.9	17	0
    17	Locked	38.6	4	0
    18	Locked	40.3	0	0
    19	Locked	38.9	5	0
    20	Locked	40.9	5	0
    21	Locked	40.3	5	0
    22	Locked	40.3	16	0
    23	Locked	38.9	16	0
    24	Locked	38.9	6	0

     

    Upstream

     

     

    Upstream bonded channels
    Channel	Frequency (Hz)	Power (dBmV)	Symbol Rate (ksps)	Modulation	Channel ID
    1	49599951	43	5120	64 qam	1
    2	23600000	42	5120	64 qam	5
    3	30100224	42.3	5120	64 qam	4
    4	36600151	42.5	5120	64 qam	3
    5	43099966	42.5	5120	64 qam	2
    
    
    Upstream bonded channels
    Channel	Channel Type	T1 Timeouts	T2 Timeouts	T3 Timeouts	T4 Timeouts
    1	ATDMA	0	0	0	0
    2	ATDMA	0	0	0	0
    3	ATDMA	0	0	0	0
    4	ATDMA	0	0	0	0
    5	ATDMA	0	0	0	0

     

    Logs

     

    Network Log
    Time	Priority	Description
    11/11/2023 18:28:43	notice	LAN login Success;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    01/01/1970 00:01:40	critical	No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    11/11/2023 16:33:45	notice	LAN login Success;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    11/11/2023 06:51:46	critical	No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    11/11/2023 06:51:22	critical	Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    11/11/2023 06:51:22	critical	Ranging Request Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    11/11/2023 06:50:38	critical	No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    09/11/2023 16:14:18	Error	DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    06/11/2023 16:57:0	critical	No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    06/11/2023 04:14:17	Error	DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    02/11/2023 21:12:38	critical	No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    02/11/2023 16:14:17	Error	DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    02/11/2023 03:17:15	critical	No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    01/11/2023 16:03:57	Warning!	RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    30/10/2023 04:14:17	Error	DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    29/10/2023 07:00:0	critical	No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    26/10/2023 16:14:17	Error	DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    26/10/2023 15:49:45	critical	No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    23/10/2023 04:14:17	Error	DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
    20/10/2023 02:06:3	critical	No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=MAC1-Redacted;CMTS-MAC=MAC2-Redacted;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

     

    Any help much appreciated.

  • Network Log

    Time Priority Description
    11-11-2023 16:03:29warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the 
    11-11-2023 16:03:26noticeCM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 24; Chan ID: 159; DSID: N/A; 
    11-11-2023 16:02:30noticeUS profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 14; Previous Profile: 12 13; New Profile: 11 13.;
    11-11-2023 16:02:30warningDBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value
    11-11-2023 16:02:30warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;
    11-11-2023 16:01:29warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;
    11-11-2023 15:56:28noticeCM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 16; Chan ID: 159; DSID: 
    11-11-2023 14:54:16warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;
    11-11-2023 14:54:00warningDBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;
    11-11-2023 14:54:00noticeUS profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 14; Previous Profile: 11 13; New Profile: 12 13.
    11-11-2023 14:53:36warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;
       
  • 3.0 Downstream channels

    Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
    13060000006.642QAM 25622
    21380000006.943QAM 2561
    31460000006.743QAM 2562
    41540000006.742QAM 2563
    51620000006.943QAM 2564
    61700000006.943QAM 2565
    71780000006.943QAM 2566
    8186000000743QAM 2567
    91940000006.943QAM 2568
    102020000006.843QAM 2569
    11210000000743QAM 25610
    122180000006.943QAM 25611
    132260000006.743QAM 25612
    142340000006.642QAM 25613
    152420000006.743QAM 25614
    162500000006.642QAM 25615
    172580000006.442QAM 25616
    182660000006.342QAM 25617
    192740000006.643QAM 25618
    202820000006.742QAM 25619
    212900000006.642QAM 25620
    222980000006.642QAM 25621
    233140000006.743QAM 25623
    243220000006.442QAM 25624
    253300000006.142QAM 25625
    263380000006.342QAM 25626
    273460000006.242QAM 25627
    283540000006.442QAM 25628
    293620000006.342QAM 25629
    303700000006.142QAM 25630
    31378000000642QAM 25631

    3.0 Downstream channels

    Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
    1Locked4227791385
    2Locked431255800
    3Locked431988244
    4Locked422007869
    5Locked4321022344
    6Locked4328623198
    7Locked4327743164
    8Locked4327893048
    9Locked4328562797
    10Locked4327092723
    11Locked4328052561
    12Locked4328022489
    13Locked4329002422
    14Locked4227342200
    15Locked4327501983
    16Locked4227731864
    17Locked4227751761
    18Locked4227971634
    19Locked4329081431
    20Locked4228351566
    21Locked4228721546
    22Locked4228321476
    23Locked4327731312
    24Locked4226881243
    25Locked4225131099
    26Locked422425905
    27Locked422353670
    28Locked422231708
    29Locked422169551
    30Locked422047491
    31Locked421976421
  • 3.0 Upstream channels

    Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
    04960000041.35120QAM 649
    14310000041.35120QAM 6410
    23660000040.35120QAM 6411
    33010000040.35120QAM 6412
    42360000040.35120QAM 6413

    3.0 Upstream channels

    Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
    0ATDMA0000
    1ATDMA0000
    2ATDMA0000
    3ATDMA0000
    4ATDMA0000
    • CoolNerdDude's avatar
      CoolNerdDude
      Tuning in

      Issue impacting Virgin Media users in the UK is FIXED as of 30 minutes ago! Thanks again to everyone that helped report this problem and provided us with the info that we needed to push for resolution.

  • i have the exact same issue did u fix it by any chance

    • Kath_P's avatar
      Kath_P
      Forum Team

      Hi Azzure, 

      Thanks for taking the time to contact us via the Community. It's lovely having you on board with us in the Forums.

      We're sorry to hear you're having an issue with your internet connection. Checking things this end, there are no open faults in the area however your downstream power levels are too high. We won't be able to fix this remotely so I would like to arrange for an engineer to come to take a look at this for you. 

      I just need to confirm the address to ensure we are booking the visit on the correct account. I have sent you a direct message to allow us to do this with you in a private space. If you are using a PC/Laptop then you can just click on the little ✉ at the top right-hand side of the page to access your inbox. If you are on a mobile/tablet device then instead click on the little circle icon in the top right then select 'Messages'. 😊

      Thanks,