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chapfish
Tuning in
2 months ago

Totally unusable service : packet loss

This weekend and particularly today, totally unusable service.

A simple ping test shows between 10% and 20% packet loss. Using the internet is like wading through treacle.

Support, useless. When talking to people on the phone, they say there is a known issue, but the online checker says its fine. I cannot attend work calls, my SSH sessions drop after a few seconds

Need help please.

Cheers,

James.

    • chapfish's avatar
      chapfish
      Tuning in

      Hello, thank you for the response. The test will not complete. 'Try again later' or 'aw snap'. When I was just using command line ping the results are thus...

      Ping statistics for 17.253.144.10:
      Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 84, Lost = 16 (16% loss),
      Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
      Minimum = 10ms, Maximum = 38ms, Average = 14ms

      Also my network log is full of the following.....

      Anything else I can try to help track this down? 

      Cheers,

      James.

      09/12/2024 15:42:9criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:41:40criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:41:40criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:36:9criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:35:41criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:35:41criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:33:39criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:33:15noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:27:9criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:26:43criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0
    • chapfish's avatar
      chapfish
      Tuning in

      Hi, thank you.

      Test wont complete either 'aw, snap' or lost connection.

      Pinging from the command line earlier give this....

      Ping statistics for 17.253.144.10:
      Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 84, Lost = 16 (16% loss),
      Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
      Minimum = 10ms, Maximum = 38ms, Average = 14ms

      Also the hub3 network log is full of the below. Anything else I can do to help diagonse this. Thanks.

       

      09/12/2024 15:42:9criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:41:40criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:41:40criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:36:9criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:35:41criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:35:41criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:33:39criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:33:15noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:27:9criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
      09/12/2024 15:26:43criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0
  • Adduxi's avatar
    Adduxi
    Very Insightful Person

    Post the rest of the tab information please, I.e. Downstream and Upstream power levels. 

    • chapfish's avatar
      chapfish
      Tuning in

      Downstream bonded channels

      Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

      13307500009.838256 qam25
      220275000010.438256 qam9
      321075000010.338256 qam10
      42187500009.940256 qam11
      52267500009.938256 qam12
      62347500009.538256 qam13
      72427500009.438256 qam14
      8250750000938256 qam15
      92587500009.138256 qam16
      10266750000938256 qam17
      11274750000938256 qam18
      12282750000938256 qam19
      13290750000938256 qam20
      142987500009.338256 qam21
      153067500009.138256 qam22
      163147500009.538256 qam23
      173227500009.538256 qam24
      183387500009.640256 qam26
      193467500009.840256 qam27
      203547500009.538256 qam28
      213627500009.540256 qam29
      223707500009.340256 qam30
      23378750000938256 qam31
      243867500008.638256 qam

       

       

      Upstream bonded channels

      Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

      14960000037.8512032 qam1
      24310000037.5512032 qam2



      Upstream bonded channels

      Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

      1ATDMA0035
      2ATDMA00210



      Downstream bonded channels

      Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

      1Locked38.9150
      2Locked38.6160
      3Locked38.9170
      4Locked40.3200
      5Locked38.9230
      6Locked38.9230
      7Locked38.6180
      8Locked38.9170
      9Locked38.9180
      10Locked38.6160
      11Locked38.9180
      12Locked38.6200
      13Locked38.6150
      14Locked38.9160
      15Locked38.6110
      16Locked38.9120
      17Locked38.670
      18Locked40.3120
      19Locked40.390
      20Locked38.9130
      21Locked40.370
      22Locked40.950
      23Locked38.960
      24Locked38.900
      • Adduxi's avatar
        Adduxi
        Very Insightful Person

        DS power is too high and your US is wrong.  You should have at least 4 x 64 QAM channels, not 2 x 32 QAM. If there is an area fault VM will not send an engineer until the fault is cleared. 

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta

    Downstream power levels are all very high / too high.  + 10 dBmV is the absolute max we hope to see.

    Downstream bonded channels

    Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

    13307500009.838256 qam25
    220275000010.438256 qam9
    321075000010.338256 qam10
    42187500009.940256 qam11
    52267500009.938256 qam12
    62347500009.538256 qam13
    72427500009.438256 qam14
    8250750000938256 qam15
    92587500009.138256 qam16
    10266750000938256 qam17



    Upstream is much worse.

    We expect to see at least 4 to 6 Upstream channels connected
    and all should be as the faster Modulation of 64 qam.

    Upstream bonded channels

    Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

    14960000037.8512032 qam1
    24310000037.5512032 qam2



    This could be a local service fault,
    failing that an engineer visit will be needed to fix the connection.

    Check for known faults in your street - do try both methods

    Call 0800 561 0061 – this is an automated number.

    https://www.virginmedia.com/help/check/status/identification/identify




    • chapfish's avatar
      chapfish
      Tuning in

      Thank you both for the help. The on line checker isn't helping me : the automated line is a good one though, I didn't know about that. It suggests no local issues, despite the helpdesk agents on the phone this morning suggesting that there was a problem. This being the case, how does one get an Engineer to visit? This is a new one for me, never been necessary before.

      • Adduxi's avatar
        Adduxi
        Very Insightful Person

        You can wait here for a VM Mod to pick this up and run tests on your Hub. Hopefully it will flag up as needing a visit, or they will confirm if there is an area fault or not. 

    • legacy1's avatar
      legacy1
      Alessandro Volta

      Client62 wrote:

      Downstream power levels are all very high / too high.  + 10 dBmV is the absolute max we hope to see.


      and also not the problem at hand😛

  • https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/9eb611ea5a248fa356233a924176b102134a5d29
  • Consistent restarts, and basically no service at all tonight. Help please Mods?

  • legacy1's avatar
    legacy1
    Alessandro Volta

    Looking at your BQM at 12am - 3am all was fine so maybe someone in the area DIY a cable extension with their hub on a timer?

    • chapfish's avatar
      chapfish
      Tuning in

      Yep, I noticed that at the time. My test yesterday of pinging apple 100 times was 0% loss, and I went to bed thinking id be working normally today. But my service is now poor again. I still need mod help please.

  • Since approx 09:30, it's been reasonably okay. A few drops seeming to creep in, in the last few mins. As I've not been monitoring, I dont know whats normal for this connection. My blunt instrument of pinging apple.com from the command line 100 times yielded 1% loss. I'd still like this investigated please, god help me, this service is my livelihood.

     

  • Hiya, 24 hours and it's looking a heck of a lot better....

    However, I would really appreciate some VM Moderator help still. Was this an area fault that's been rectified? If not, how can we ensure this doesn't happen again?

    Many thanks to those who contributed to this thread, kudos has been given.

    I'll be keeping this up to date until I get some Mod help.

    Thanks again.

    • Matthew_ML's avatar
      Matthew_ML
      Forum Team

      Hey chapfish, thank you for reaching out and a very warm welcome to the community I am so sorry to hear you are having some connection issues.

      Let me send you a DM to get to the bottom of it.

    • Matthew_ML's avatar
      Matthew_ML
      Forum Team

      Glad we've managed to look into this.

      Keep us updated if you need anything else going forward.