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DouglasRamsey
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5 days ago

Local outage is leaving me without Internet for over 3 weeks

TL;DR: My internet died after a local outage. Virgin Media sent an engineer who couldn't fix it. What followed was a week of chaos: being hung up on twice, promised callbacks that never happened, and engineers who were booked and then mysteriously cancelled. I was told four different stories by four different people, including that my one-year-old cables were "too old" and needed a rewire, with the next appointment being 2.5 weeks away. After threatening to release call recordings, I was finally put through to an "Executive" who has promised to sort it, but I'm not holding my breath.

Right, where to begin? Before I get into the nitty-gritty of this whole saga, I want to make one thing clear: I have call recordings of most of the conversations I’m about to describe, just to prove I’m not making any of this up.

I’m what you’d call a simple customer. I’m on Virgin’s M500 plan, just for the internet. That’s it. And for a while, it was fine. The issues kicked off on Thursday, 12th of June, when I got a text saying there was an outage in my area. Fair enough, these things happen. The internet was a bit patchy for the next few days, dropping in and out, but it mostly worked.

Then came Sunday night. At around 9 pm, the internet decided to pack it in completely. The hub was just sitting there, its usual white light being interrupted by a flashing red one every few seconds. A sign of things to come, I suppose.

Come Monday morning at 8 am, I was on the phone. "What's going on?" I asked. I was told the area fault was still active and it should be all sorted by 6 pm. And to be fair, I got a text at 2:10 pm saying the issue was resolved. Great news, you might think. Except for the small fact that I still had no internet.

So, I called them back and, after a bit of back and forth, insisted they send someone out. An engineer arrived later that day. He checked things inside, then had a look outside and delivered the verdict: no signal was coming into the house from the street cabinet. He said it was a job for a specialist team, not him. He texted his manager and supposedly arranged for the right person to come the next day, Tuesday. Since I wouldn't be in, I confirmed with him that all the work was outside and they wouldn't need access. He assured me that was the case. Just to be safe, I rang customer service to double-check. They confirmed it too.

On Tuesday, around 2 pm, my phone rings. It's someone from Virgin. "Good news, the engineer has been and closed the job. Just restart your router." I told him that was brilliant, but I wouldn't be home until quarter past six and asked if he could give me a call back then. He said he would.

You can guess what happened next. I got home, restarted the router, and… nothing. Still dead. And the callback? Of course, it never came.

So, I called them. Again. I explained the whole story to a lady on the phone, only for her to tell me that their records showed "no one was at the property today". At this point, I got a little bit miffed. I explained that I work from home three days a week and this was becoming a massive problem. And for my troubles? She hung up on me.

I immediately rang back, absolutely fuming, and demanded to speak to a manager. I explained the situation to the new agent, including the fact I'd just been hung up on. He started the transfer, which put me on hold for a good ten minutes. I finally heard a "Hello?" and then… click. They’d hung up on me again.

Forty minutes into my next call, I finally spoke to a representative named "Waye" (I've no idea how to spell it). To her credit, she was lovely. She said all the right things, promised me compensation equal to my monthly bill, and even gave me a complaint reference number. She said she'd booked an engineer for the next day, Wednesday. Then she asked, "As you're happy with that, can I close the complaint?" I told her, in no uncertain terms, that nothing was being closed until my internet was back on.

Wednesday, 11:30 am. I called to check what time the engineer was due. The response? "I'm sorry, sir, but there is no engineer scheduled for today."

The conversation that followed lasted nearly an hour, with the bloke on the other end changing his story more times than I've had hot dinners. First, he could get someone out for Thursday. Then, a minute later, he said the engineer from Tuesday had closed the job because it needed a "Network Management team," who were, apparently, working on it "as we speak." He then offered to book a "backup" engineer for Friday. Note how Thursday was suddenly off the table. I asked him if the Friday engineer was the same type of technician as the one on Monday who couldn't fix it. His reply was a wonderfully vague, "The engineer will come and do his job." Utterly useless.

A few hours later, I decided to try for a manager again. I got through to a manager named Shirli. She was very nice, very apologetic, and said all the things I wanted to hear. She even managed to arrange an engineer for that same afternoon, between 12 pm and 4 pm. Given that my call with her was at 2 pm, I wasn't sure if she'd invented a time machine, but I was willing to hope.

Of course, the engineer never turned up.

At 5 pm, I was back on the phone. I asked for Shirli but was told they have no direct lines to managers. The new agent looked into why the 12-4 pm engineer was a no-show. Her findings were astonishing. The appointment had been scheduled, but was "immediately cancelled and rescheduled by the system." Why? Because the wiring to my property needed a full rewire as it was "too old." This is utterly impossible – the entire village I live in was only cabled by Virgin less than a year ago.

I asked her when the system had rescheduled this phantom rewire for. She then had to manually check for the next available slot, proving the "automatic reschedule" was a lie. Had I not called, I'd have been left waiting for no one.

"The next available appointment for a rewire," she said, "is the 3rd of July." Two and a half weeks away.

I asked for a manager.

This time, I got Soel. The pleasantries were over. He was blunt, and kept repeating that while the cable to my house was new, the underground cables down the road were old. This is also false, for the same reason as before. He stated there was nothing he could do about the two-and-a-half-week wait and that I was "welcome to cancel," and he would waive the fee. In a moment of sheer exasperation, I agreed. But then, I thought better of it. I told him to stop the cancellation and that I would be posting my call recordings online to show the world the level of incompetence and lack of care at Virgin Media.

His tone changed. He said if that was my intention, he would connect me to the Executive Team, who might issue me with a Deadlock Letter so I could go to the Ombudsman.

Finally, I was transferred to Akhil. He was, thankfully, one of the nicer ones again. I recounted the entire, sorry tale one last time. He listened patiently and said he would use his "executive powers" to push my rewire forward and that it wouldn't be two and a half weeks away. He promised he had put in a request and would call me back tomorrow.

So here I am, waiting for that promised call from Akhil. As you can probably guess, I’m not holding my breath. I'm now deciding on the best way to get this full story, along with the call recordings, out to the public. I've already contacted a few newsletters about it, in the hope that one of them fancies picking up a story about just how farcical this entire process has been. We'll see if a bit of public light is the only thing that can get a simple internet connection fixed.

9 Replies

  • Adduxi's avatar
    Adduxi
    Very Insightful Person

    Don’t forget to claim your compensation …

    • DouglasRamsey's avatar
      DouglasRamsey
      Joining in

      I spoke to 3 different people offering 3 different compensations on a condition that they can close the complaint without actually resolving anything. Biggest I got was a a months payment amount Direct Debit (approx £33) but I've been without service for 4 days counting and apparently they offer £9+ for each day. 

      • Adduxi's avatar
        Adduxi
        Very Insightful Person

        Yes, I believe it's £9 odds per day.  So just keep details of everything.

  • Hi there Douglas.

    I'm sorry to read of the problems you have had with the quality of your VM broadband connection.

    I have had similar problems.  You are welcome to check my profile for some of my posts in that regard.

    I suggest taking the emotion out of your decision making, and to try to think pragmatically and logically.

    First, you need broadband provision.

    Second, in my estimation, and ideally, you want to avoid time-consuming call-centre interactions.

    I suggest the following:

    (1) In the short-term, implement a mobile phone "tethering" solution, assuming that is workable for you.  If you are a heavy data user, it would be advantageous if you have unlimited data on your mobile plan.

    (2) After that, acquire a more substantial stand-alone SIM-equipable router, purchasable from any mainstream online vendor.  I suggest Amazon as the vendor, under this search here.  Other vendors are of course available.  I suggest TP-Link as the brand of choice.  Other brands are of course available.  Then, you buy a data SIM for it, from a mobile provider.  I suggest opting for a provider known for reliability and coverage, especially if you live "out in the sticks".

    (3) After you have achieved a reliable way to consistently connect to the internet (and to conduct your daily online affairs), and if VM are unable to repair your connection, consider researching alternative providers.  If that requires "buying out" your contract, then so be it.

    That's the long and short of it.

    I hope this post was useful in some way, and I wish you the best of fortune.

  • legacy1's avatar
    legacy1
    Alessandro Volta

    Thats ruff its as if losing you as a customer is cheaper then the fix which should not be allowed.

    I have a backup 4/5G SIM in case of problems its not ideal but for most things it gets you online

    https://store.zyxel.com/fwa-510-eu0102f.html

  • bec3's avatar
    bec3
    Just joined

    I am having a very similar experience. My Internet has now been down since 27th May. I've been told repeatedly the engineer is coming only for them to fail to turn up. I just have no idea what to do 

  • Hi again Douglas.

    I just thought I'd follow-up, out of curiosity, to see if you are on the way to getting your problem sorted.  I hope you are!

    In my own case, I have committed to changing my provider to an OpenReach provider (and I am on-track to make that happen).  That said, I understand that such drastic action is not always possible or feasible for everyone, especially for:

    • parties who are not out of contract -- and who could, potentially, face a very high contract exit cost, if they cannot completely establish that the broadband service was not satisfactorily provided.
    • parties who have just committed to a new VM contract.
    • parties who have no competing providers in their area.


    I was thinking a little about my post above, and I thought I'd follow up with a slightly expanded version of it, on the off chance that it might be useful for persons experiencing prolonged or regular VM broadband outages.

    My Recommended "VM Broadband Outage Strategy"

    If you lose your VM broadband connection (i.e., if it "goes down", and you experience a prolonged outage, and assuming it is a "VM side" problem), this is my recommended "outage strategy".

    Step 1:  Emergency Measures:  Implement a Mobile Tethering or Mobile Hotspot Solution

    (1) Assuming you have a "smartphone" mobile phone (and most people these days do), the first step is to get either:

    (A) get a mobile phone "tethering" solution working (this involves connecting, or "tethering" the mobile phone to your computer, via a USB cable), or
    (B) get a mobile phone wifi "hot spot" solution working.

    The latter might be better if you want to keep the mobile phone completely mobile, and not have it connected (via USB) to a computer all-day.  Of course, the computer you are using must have wifi capability.  If it does not, then USB tethering is the option to initially select.

    Instructions -- for either an Android phone or an iPhone -- are readily on YouTube, under sensible search terms (for example, "mobile tethering android", "mobile tethering iphone", "mobile hotspot android", "mobile hotspot iphone", and so on.)  If you are a heavy data user, it would be advantageous if you have unlimited data on your current smartphone mobile plan.

    Step 2:  Consolidate:  Acquire a Stand-Alone SIM-equipable Router

    (2) After you get back online under step (1), I recommend acquiring a more substantial stand-alone SIM-equipable router, purchasable from any mainstream online vendor.  My preference is to buy from Amazon, under this search term here.  Of course, other vendors are available.  In terms of brands, I prefer TP-Link equipment, under this search term here.  Again, other brands are of course available, and are perfectly feasible.  Then, you buy a unlimited data SIM for the SIM-equipable router, ideally from an reputable mobile provider.  Without naming names, I suggest opting for a provider known for both reliability and coverage, especially if you live "out in the sticks".

    Step 3:  Report the Outage, Then Wait

    (3) This step is quite simple.  You report the outage, then you aim to "wait out" the outage until a fix is applied.  During the wait, you rely on your new-found broadband connectivity methods to conduct your daily online affairs.  This is not ideal, but it allows you to conduct essential online affairs.

    Step 4:  If VM Broadband Connectivity Cannot Be Re-Established, Consider Researching a New Provider

    (4) This step is the final choice.  If it transpires that VM are unable to reliably repair/re-establish your broadband connection, consider researching alternative broadband providers.  If you are out of contract, this should be straightforwards.  It is more complicated if you are "in contract".  On this latter point, as far as I am aware, a contract may be exited if the service contracted for cannot be satisfactorily provided.  I am not an expert on this topic, but that is my broad understanding of it.  I encourage readers to do their own research on this point.

    All things considered, I hope this post was useful in some way to others in a similar situation to Douglas or myself.

    Best of fortune everyone, and especially those of us suffering from outages, either intermittent, or prolonged.