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OverAndOut
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3 years ago
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Sky Customers Unable to Call Virgin Media VOIP

Fellow VM customers,

Since November friends and family with Sky mobiles (or landlines) have been unable to call my VM VOIP line. (The telephone is connected to our VM hub).

Making calls is no problem. It appears that numbers from other phone providers can get through, so it seems to affect only Sky numbers. When they call they hear an error message: "Sorry, that number does not exist." VM sent an engineer out and he confirmed all our internal equipment (hub, phone and line) is fine, so suggested it must be an external issue. Sure enough, he consulted his issue-checker, and noted that there was an outage in the area. 

I see from Sky forums that Sky customers are reporting problems between the two networks. I even spoke to a Sky technician who seemed knowledgeable and friendly, but Sky place the issue firmly in Virgin Media's corner. 

Virgin Media telephone support (stop laughing) acknowledge there's an outage in the area, but that's all they know and that's all they ever say. The field technicians have set 4 dates to fix it and failed 4 times. Each time they set themselves a new date and try again. They have a set a 5th resolution date of 3rd Jan. 

There may be an outage, but in over 2 months VM can't actually confirm if that outage is responsible for this specific issue. So, we may be waiting for VM to fix a problem, not the problem.

Faulty hardware and wiring can account for degradation of service across the board, but this isn't across the board, it's specific to Sky numbers, so it seems more of a config issue. 

So, if you're experiencing the issue, please comment. If you have insights that may help, please also feel free to comment.

(VM Mods, if all you can do is confirm there's an outage and repeat the next resolution date, please save your energy.)

Thanks all.

 

  • OverAndOut's avatar
    OverAndOut
    3 years ago

    Update: I called Sky for the 3rd time today (03.02.2023). Like Sky user Caro77 on the Sky forum here I asked the issue to be escalated. For some reason they asked us to provide examples of numbers that weren't able to get through to the VM landline. I found this baffling and stressed that we couldn't provide an exhaustive list explaining that anyone with a Sky number (landline or mobile) should be able to get through. They resolved the issue within 2 hrs. Friends confirmed they can now get through. Hurrah.

    So, it turns out it's wasn't a problem on the Virgin Media end after all. The "outage" that Virgin Media keep referring to has absolutely nothing to do with it. Had we kept listening to Virgin Media, we'd have been waiting for indefinitely. 

    Virgin Media take note. If customers raise issues, resist the habit of consulting the service status and automatically concluding it's connected to the outage. Try helping customers by doing some investigation first.

  • nodrogd's avatar
    nodrogd
    Very Insightful Person

    This is likely to be an issue either with VMs headend PSTN exchange or the interconnect with the local BT PSTN exchange.

    It will be nothing to do with the hub based 21CV line. All this does is replace the old analogue copper pair between your house and the network segment fibre node cabinet, where the signal is converted to digital & sent to VMs headend, with a direct digital link from the hub to the fibre node. Everything else is the same.

    • OverAndOut's avatar
      OverAndOut
      On our wavelength
      Thank you @nodrogd for this insight. Would this explain why it's only Sky numbers that are not getting through?

      After 4 resolutions attempts and nothing, it's clear that VM need help resolving the issue. How does one suggest these possibilities to those managing those areas of VM's network? VM Tech support simply run through a series of remote (automated) tests and refer to the outage in the area (even though the outage may not be the cause). Then they point to yet another resolution date. That's where the sorry exchange ends.
      • nodrogd's avatar
        nodrogd
        Very Insightful Person

        It could be an issue at the BT exchange end, where the calls are routed to Virgin. Sky subcontract to Openreach on the maintenance side, so it may be their issue.

  • Paulina_Z's avatar
    Paulina_Z
    Forum Team (Retired)

    Hi OverAndOut,

    Welcome back to our Community Forums. Thank you for your post and I'm very sorry to hear that you're having some issues with your landline connection.

    Can you confirm that you have a Virgin Media landline connection set up at your property? Have you taken a look at our Landline Faults page to see if this can help rectify your issue?

    I can see that you're chatting to my colleague via Private Message at the moment. Our colleague will be able to look into this further for you and discuss this issue in further detail.

    Thank you.

    • OverAndOut's avatar
      OverAndOut
      On our wavelength

      Paulina,

      The Landline faults page is no help for this issue. Your colleague was no help either and we're not chatting. 

      O&O

      • Paulina_Z's avatar
        Paulina_Z
        Forum Team (Retired)

        Hi OverAndOut,

        Thanks for coming back to us. Sorry to hear that the landline help page is not helpful. In order to investigate further, we'll need security on the account to be cleared. 

        Please go back to my colleague so that they can help investigate further for you.

        Thank you. 🙂

  • cc1970's avatar
    cc1970
    On our wavelength

    Hi

    I too had this problem very recently with people on sky network.  My mother in law and brother in law both had sky landlines on the same exchange and when they called received the same message as you but when someone on a BT landline called they got through no issues so in my mind it was sky netwrk at fault as they have their own equipment at the exchange.  Though Sky and VM both blamed each other but I think Sky looked into it as I explained the scenario above

    • Molly_T's avatar
      Molly_T
      Forum Team

      Hi cc1970 👋, welcome back to the community! Thank you for joining this thread. 

      Sorry to hear that you are also having issues with your landline service receiving calls from Sky network landlines. 

      Is this issue still ongoing for you at the moment? If you can please let us know!

      I will also send you a PM to confirm a few details so we can investigate further if needed. 

      Thank you for your patience in the meantime. 

      All the best! 

  • Is anyone else having issues with VoIP? When I call local (Sale), without the area code, I get a message to say this phone is not working. Both people I am calling are with Virgin Media. If I call them with the area code (0161) the calls go through with no issues. 

    • Ayisha_B's avatar
      Ayisha_B
      Forum Team

      Hi v23474,

      Thanks for your post. 

      Is this happening on all or just certain local numbers you call?

    • goslow's avatar
      goslow
      Alessandro Volta

      v23474 wrote:

      Is anyone else having issues with VoIP? When I call local (Sale), without the area code, I get a message to say this phone is not working. Both people I am calling are with Virgin Media. If I call them with the area code (0161) the calls go through with no issues. 


      The area code issue was mentioned recently, below with a possible explanation from Roger_Gooner

      https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Home-Phone/Having-to-put-area-code-for-local-calls/td-p/5449239

      In the case of VM though, there seems to be an ever-growing list of unusual issues with its phone connections via the hub so you may not be able to find out if your problem is by accident or design.

    • Lee_R's avatar
      Lee_R
      Forum Team

      Hi v23474 

      Further to the question my colleague asked, do you know if there are numbers within your locality, that aren't with ourselves that you're having the same issue with?

      Regards

      Lee_R

  • We have since started using 0161 when dialling and the problem has not recurred.