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Hub 5.0 DHCP Issues

clockworksatan
Tuning in

I just upgraded to the Hub 5.0 on VM's 1gig connection.  I previously had the Hub 3.0 and had to switch it to modem mode as its WiFi was quite frankly rubbish, and I was hoping that the new Hub would be a vast improvement.  Initially, I was impressed with the WiFi speed (I even said 'wheee' when doing a speedtest), but when it came to me trying to assign a static IP to my NAS, I keep encountering an odd issue.  

When I go into the DHCP settings and select my NAS, it displays the following:

Hub 5 IP Assignment issue.png

It doesn't matter what IP address I put in there; it always says that it's not a valid IP address.  I mean, wth?  Don't tell me that this shiny, modern router doesn't in fact have basic router functionality?  Anyway, I called VM this morning to see if they had any words of wisdom, but the rep on the other end of the phone was completely useless and didn't seem to have the slightest clue what I was talking about. 

From the posts I've seen on this already, I gather that there's no fix for this and I've not missed anything obvious?  I've got a feeling that I'm going to switching this new hub to modem only too, which is annoying as the router I've got isn't a WiFi 6 one.  

9 REPLIES 9

Client62
Alessandro Volta

Hub 5 DHCP has always been as flaky as chocolate.

Configure the NAS to a static IP outside of the DHCP range.

legacy1
Alessandro Volta

For the best experience with VM get your own router with 1Gb ports and use hub in modem mode

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Roger_Gooner
Alessandro Volta

Use the dynamically assigned IP address, that's how I did it for my NAS (it's 192.168.0.17).

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Hub 5, TP-Link TL-SG108S 8-port gigabit switch, 360
My Broadband Ping - Roger's VM hub 5 broadband connection

Tudor
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person

You are not giving the NAS a static IP address doing it on the VM hubs, you are only giving it a ‘preferred’ IP address. You can only give a device a static IP address by doing it on the device. Preferred IP addresses allocated on a HUB or router are always wrongly called static addresses. If you give a device a ‘preferred’ IP address you get twice the amount of DHCP traffic as a static address on the device.


Tudor
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary and those who don't and F people out of 10 who do not understand hexadecimal c1a2a285948293859940d9a49385a2

I disagree. There is an initial DHCP negotiation process which occurs regardless of whether a NAS uses a static IP or a  DHCP-reserved IP. Subsequently if the NAS reconnects or if the lease needs renewal, some additional DHCP traffic will occur but this is trivial.

For most people I recommend DHCP reservation as all IP assignments are in one place and, of course, many  devices such as mobile and IoT devices do not provide the means to statically set their IP addresses.

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Hub 5, TP-Link TL-SG108S 8-port gigabit switch, 360
My Broadband Ping - Roger's VM hub 5 broadband connection

Tudor
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person

For a ‘reserved’ DHCP, at least on my router, you get:

DHCPDISCOVER
DHCPOFFER
DHCPREQUEST
DHCPACK

For a ‘static’ device you get:

DHCPREQUEST
DHCPACK

I agreed most IoT WiFi devices do not provide facilities to have a ‘static’ IP address, but all Apple devices certainly allow it, I use it on all of mine.


Tudor
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary and those who don't and F people out of 10 who do not understand hexadecimal c1a2a285948293859940d9a49385a2

unisoft
Knows their stuff

@Tudor wrote:

For a ‘reserved’ DHCP, at least on my router, you get:

DHCPDISCOVER
DHCPOFFER
DHCPREQUEST
DHCPACK

For a ‘static’ device you get:

DHCPREQUEST
DHCPACK

I agreed most IoT WiFi devices do not provide facilities to have a ‘static’ IP address, but all Apple devices certainly allow it, I use it on all of mine.


You are correct, but generally a reserved IP address means the device gets it - so like a static address with advantage that it can be changed at some point more easily on a hub/switch if required. Downside if DHCP is not available then your device may get nothing (but some devices offer a fallback address if DHCP not available to try). A pure proper static is fixed on the device itself and does not rely on DHCP to give it.

I was indeed being a dummy and have updated my NAS settings so that it's properly set to a static IP and it's now working with my Hub 5.0.  Thank you for your help!

Hi @clockworksatan 

Welcome back to our community forums and sorry to hear you were having DHCP Issues. We are glad to see the community was able to help with this. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you need any further help.

Thanks,

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