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Frequent Packet Drops/Loss - SYNC Timing Syncronisation Failure?

Milney
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I had posted in the gaming support, but felt that a more detailed post here is likely to get a better response.

For a considerable length of time - probably at least 9 months, if not more - I have been suffering from frequent but irregular packetloss on my VM Fibre connection.

 

It was first noticed as on Microsoft Teams/Zoom calls when working from home my colleagues would report that I would occassionally freeze up, even though I could still see and hear them. As this was the only symptom (that I had noticed) I chalked it up to a connection with Teams/Zoom rather than an ISP issue. However over the last few months I have noticed when using online applications (in particular games) which require a constant connection that I get a frequent but irregular dropout causing packetburst/packetloss and the associated impact on gameplay and service that you would expect.

 

At the end of January I set up a BQM to check, and the frequent spikes are clearly shown. I have done all the standard troubleshooting steps - rebooting the Hub, checking the cables, resetting and so on. However a quick comparison of my Network Log to some historic cases on the forum seem to indicate that this is an issue with VM itself.

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

13870000001.540256 qam32
2139000000-2.238256 qam1
3147000000-2.438256 qam2
4155000000-2.438256 qam3
5163000000-2.538256 qam4
6171000000-238256 qam5
7179000000-1.738256 qam6
8187000000-1.238256 qam7
9195000000-1.440256 qam8
10203000000-1.540256 qam9
11211000000-1.440256 qam10
12219000000-1.438256 qam11
13227000000-1.538256 qam12
14235000000-1.440256 qam13
152910000000.540256 qam20
16299000000140256 qam21
173070000001.440256 qam22
183150000001.540256 qam23
193230000001.740256 qam24
203470000001.940256 qam27
213550000001.740256 qam28
223630000001.440256 qam29
233710000001.240256 qam30
243790000001.540256 qam31

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked40.319805195715
2Locked38.61089478023
3Locked38.652769822193
4Locked38.6492738436
5Locked38.94417613074
6Locked38.97033416532
7Locked38.62468714993
8Locked38.61578715846
9Locked40.31075518079
10Locked40.31884315205
11Locked40.3682216780
12Locked38.9718414446
13Locked38.61085414582
14Locked40.31230815733
15Locked40.91923115266
16Locked40.3566516485
17Locked40.3483317544
18Locked40.3515919561
19Locked40.9616620477
20Locked40.3469016440
21Locked40.9406517475
22Locked40.9465916458
23Locked40.3463418992
24Locked40.3266363053

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

13010000040.3512064 qam4
22360000040.3512064 qam5
33660000040.8512064 qam3
44310000040.3512064 qam2
54960000040.8512064 qam1

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0020
2ATDMA0010
3ATDMA0060
4ATDMA0040
5ATDMA0040
4 REPLIES 4

Milney
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I've been having issues with my Virgin Media fibre connection. At first, all I noticed was that occasionally during Microsoft Teams/Zoom calls whilst working from home, I would occasionally "drop" connection - though I could still see and hear other participants, my feed would freeze for them. 

Initially I shrugged this off as a quirk of those programs, as I was still receiving video streams. However, when gaming I noticed that I would get frequent (but irregular) packetburst and packetloss. This was intrusive, but also in some games causes autodisconnects even though the packetburst lasts for only a brief moment. As such this has made any sort of online gaming practically impossible. At the end of January I set up a Broadband Quality Monitor, and it shows these packetbursts very clearly.

The fact that they also happen in the small hours of the morning, although less frequently, indicates that this is likely an issue with the ISP rather than due to anything on my end as there is no usage during those times.

 

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/f6e7219aa16706904a3e11d10b23dcc1d2a35e2b

 I've checked through all the standard checklists, checked physical cable connections, rebooted the router etc. but to no avail. Virgin seems to have a brick wall when trying to contact them to address this however.

Milney
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Network Log

Time Priority Description

17/02/2024 23:02:28noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
17/02/2024 22:52:49criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
17/02/2024 22:43:11noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
17/02/2024 20:05:52criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
17/02/2024 19:26:12Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
17/02/2024 18:46:19criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
17/02/2024 16:42:17Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
17/02/2024 10:00:24criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
17/02/2024 08:21:27criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
16/02/2024 17:09:32criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
16/02/2024 15:57:18Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
16/02/2024 13:46:37criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
16/02/2024 12:53:21Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
16/02/2024 10:36:46criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
16/02/2024 09:53:7Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
16/02/2024 01:09:49criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
16/02/2024 01:08:47criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/02/2024 16:24:5criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/02/2024 15:12:4noticeDHCP Renew - lease parameters tftp file-cmreg-vmdg505-bbt062-b.cm modified;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/02/2024 15:12:4ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

Milney
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BQM: 

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/0915288b112434c06630f6524a48049087b3d716-17-02-2024

Hi @Milney 👋.

Thanks for reaching out to us and welcome to the Community Forums. Apologies for the issues that you have been having with your internet. We can certainly assist you, we would need to bring you in for a private message to discuss this and resolve. 

Please look out for the envelope on the top right of your web browser or if you are using a mobile device, it will be located under your profile icon.
 

Thanks.
 

Sabrina