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100% packet loss every 30 mins - phone and chat support not helpful

adargon
On our wavelength

Hi Everyone,

I have an issue with my connection that I have had previously. I wasn't happy that the problem just 'went away' without anyone able to provide me with an explanation. 
Basically, every 30 minutes the signal to my router stops for about 30 seconds to a minute. I know this because I have a BQM setup and can see it. I have attached the report from today. 
I have tried phone and chat support, but they were both most unsuccessful because they cannot deal with anything that doesn't fit their script. I have reset my router etc. to go through their merry little dance, but the problem is not with the router or any equipment in my house it is clearly the signal coming into the house. Unfortunately, this falls on deaf ears. 
I wonder whether anyone who has some technical chops at VM can help me here. I am very frustrated that no one else seems to have this issue and that there isn't a way to report this to someone knowledgeable - although that may be because this type of intermittent problem is hard to detect.

Please someone help!Virgin BQM 04.02.23.png

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jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person

What Hub model do you have and also what devices do you have connected to the Hub directly on ethernet cables?

Also worth checking if there are any known issues on the the “free & automated” Service Status number - 0800 561 0061 - which usually gives the most up to date info. and tells you of more local issues and fix estimates, down to street cab/ postcode level.

If nothing shows on thee - can you do this.

Do a quick check that all of your coax cable connections are in nice and "finger" tight - at the Hub and wall box and also at any connectors etc. Disconnect all the connections and reconnect to be sure. Ensure there are no “unterminated cable loose ends or loose wires on the connectors . Also check that the internal wiring is ok with no kinking or chaffing, when its light, check that all looks good with the outside cabling (no clips piercing, or broken sheathing) and the wall box. 

Then...Post up your Hub/network connection details and someone will check to see if there is a problem there.  In your browser’s URL box type in http://192.168.0.1 (or http://192.168.100.1 - if in modem mode) (DONT click these links) - and hit return. No need to log in - just click on the “Router Status” icon/text at bottom-middle (Hub3/4/5) or top/right (SH’s) - of the Login page.
Then… Navigate to these “data pages” and just copy/paste the normal “Formatted Text” (not images) 3 FULL sets of data onto here – 2 tables from the Downstream, 2 from the Upstream, & the Network Logs pages. Don't worry too much about the formatting it can be easily read & DON’T include personal data or MAC addresses - blank them out - if you copy/paste the data, the board software will do this for you (you may need to click the "submit" button again). If character limits are “exceeded” - just do two posts


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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

adargon
On our wavelength

Thanks for taking the time to reply @jbrennand.
Here are the answers to your questions
1. I have a hub 3.0 in modem mode. Only one ethernet cable connected - to my Ubiquiti router.
2. I checked the service status by phoning and there aren't any issues affecting my area.
3. All cables are finger-tight. VM box on the outside wall has not been disturbed and it doesn't look like there are any loose wires or unterminated cables.
4. The internal wiring looks good with no kinking or chaffing. Nothing has been moved.
5. Logs to follow.


Further info. I can see this started at 16.30 on Thursday 1 February. There was also an outage last night between 11pm and 4am, which wasn't a power cut or deliberate power cycle by us. Looks like the issue is still there.Virgin BQM 05.02.23.png

adargon
On our wavelength

Downstream logs:

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

1386750000-240256 qam32
2202750000-0.538256 qam9
3210750000-0.938256 qam10
4218750000-140256 qam11
5226750000-1.438256 qam12
6234750000-1.538256 qam13
7242750000-1.938256 qam14
8250750000-2.238256 qam15
9258750000-2.438256 qam16
10266750000-2.538256 qam17
11274750000-2.538256 qam18
12282750000-2.238256 qam19
13290750000-1.938256 qam20
14298750000-1.738256 qam21
15306750000-1.540256 qam22
16314750000-1.440256 qam23
17322750000-1.440256 qam24
18330750000-1.540256 qam25
19338750000-1.740256 qam26
20346750000-1.740256 qam27
21354750000-240256 qam28
22362750000-240256 qam29
23370750000-1.940256 qam30
24378750000-1.740256 qam31



Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked40.310
2Locked38.950
3Locked38.680
4Locked40.340
5Locked38.940
6Locked38.940
7Locked38.950
8Locked38.900
9Locked38.9120
10Locked38.6130
11Locked38.970
12Locked38.950
13Locked38.950
14Locked38.960
15Locked40.350
16Locked40.350
17Locked40.350
18Locked40.360
19Locked40.350
20Locked40.350
21Locked40.370
22Locked40.350
23Locked40.370
24Locked40.310

adargon
On our wavelength

Upstream logs

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

14310000747.5512064 qam2
22359958547512064 qam5
33009991546.8512064 qam4
43660003147512064 qam3
54960000048.5512064 qam1



Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA00110
2ATDMA0010
3ATDMA0020
4ATDMA0010
5ATDMA0010

adargon
On our wavelength

Network logs:

Network Log

Time Priority Description

05/02/2024 04:48:18criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:48:18criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:47:6criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:47:6criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:45:58criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:45:57criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:44:57criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:44:57criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:44:5criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:44:5criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:43:6criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:43:6criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:42:19criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:42:19criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:40:56criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:40:55criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:40:8criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:40:8criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:39:10criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/02/2024 04:39:10criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

adargon
On our wavelength

Another update.
I have just had a visit from an engineer. He checked all my router, cables and outside box before checking the local cabinet.
He couldn't find an issue but said that the network guys said there was a network fault affecting the cabinet that serves my house, that was supposedly rectified this morning. No more details about the fault. 
The problem is still happening for me. 
The engineer didn't mark the case as resolved but also couldn't give me any details about how this fault can be rectified or even a contact who would know about the issue. This fault is consistent but intermittent, so it really needs monitoring rather than tests that happen in a single moment which are unlikely to catch it happening or shed light on the cause.

I feel really stuck with this problem. Can anyone help?

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person

What is being reported on the 0800 number I posted above ?


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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

adargon
On our wavelength

Similarly to when I phoned the 0800 number when this originally happened, there were no local issues reported yesterday either.
The issue is still there. Consistently all day yesterday, it dropped out for a short period every 30 mins. Really frustrating cos it disconnects me from video calls or stops streaming.

adargon
On our wavelength

Another update. I disabled modem mode and ran the hub in router mode with only one wired PC connected. This made no difference and the intermittent issue is still there. Not sure what else to try...