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The_Tonner
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3 years ago
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The New 5x Hub (different than the standard 5Hub)

Hi everyone, I hope this information can be helpful for others as it took me over a week and more than 20 calls to Virgin support to finally resolve the issue.

After residing at my property for over 10 years, I was thrilled to learn that Virgin Internet was now available in my area. Without hesitation, I signed up for the 1Gig plan as soon as I saw the Virgin engineers working nearby. During the sign-up process, I informed the sales representative about my struggles with weak Wi-Fi signals in certain areas of my house. They assured me that with my chosen plan, I would be eligible for free Wi-Fi booster pods.

After the broadband installation by the engineer, we tested the Wi-Fi signal and, as expected, it didn't reach the areas where I needed it the most. The engineer advised me to contact Virgin support, assuring me that they would send out the booster pods. Unfortunately, despite placing the order for the pods four times over a span of 2.5 weeks, every time I called, I was informed that there were no pod orders associated with my account.

Feeling frustrated, I decided to conduct some further research and attempted to use my own Wi-Fi extenders. To my surprise, I discovered that the 5x hub does not have a router mode, which was an essential feature for my needs.

I contacted Virgin support once again and explained the situation, mentioning that I have the 5x hub. It turns out that the technical teams have not received training on this particular hub yet and are unaware that the pods are not compatible. Each time I ordered the pods, they were automatically canceled by another department.

Here are some key details to keep in mind:
- The 5x hub is different from the 5 hub.
- The 5x hub is connected via optical cable, not coaxial.
- The new routers currently do not have a router mode (at the moment).
- Not all support team members are aware of this information when providing assistance.
- Wi-Fi extender pods are currently unavailable (at the moment), likely due to the router mode issue.
- 5x Hub not compatible with the virgin connect App
- This 5x hub is a trial hub and they are giving customer this without telling them. (Well never told me)

For now, I have placed the router in the middle of one of my rooms to ensure a signal reaches my office. I remain hopeful that Virgin can address this situation, rectify the pod availability, and enable router mode functionality. Unfortunately, switching to the standard 5 hub is not feasible for me since the cables running to my house through BT ducts are optical-only.

I find myself in a rather inconvenient situation, but I'm optimistic that Virgin will resolve these issues soon.

If any Virgin Techs read this please give me a update or a time scale???

 

  • 1. I am assured by VM that modem mode will eventually be available on the hub5x with a firmware update, but at present VM want to test it out for ‘normal’ users.

    2. The pods also require a firmware update to the hub to make them work, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with modem mode.

    3. You should have definitely been advised that it was a trial and also given access to the ‘trial’ part of the bulletin board. (Unfortunately I cannot access this trial board, but if I could I may have been able to give a better answer to your concerns.)

    You best option is to wait for a member of VM staff to get to your post to assist. 

    Do not think of buying a mesh system until modem mode is available, but there are many good WiFi access points that are not mesh and would help with your current WiFi problem.

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  • I have submitted a formal complaint to VM as I am experiencing the same issue with the hub 5x and wi fi pods. Is it no surprise that VM get such a low customer satisfaction when they are misleading their customers.  

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta

    With a leading edge Hub 5x I would be opting for commercial Wi-Fi repeaters or adding WI-Fi mesh operated in access point mode.

    Cost is not important vs the many hours wasted on the phone to Customer Support & only to end up with the trouble some VM Pods.

    • Roger_Gooner's avatar
      Roger_Gooner
      Alessandro Volta

      Client62 wrote:

      With a leading edge Hub 5x I would be opting for commercial Wi-Fi repeaters or adding WI-Fi mesh operated in access point mode.

      Cost is not important vs the many hours wasted on the phone to Customer Support & only to end up with the trouble some VM Pods.


      It's new to VM but not leading edge, just an ONT with a typical barely adequate router packaged in a box.

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta

    Why can the Hub 5x not be used with a Mesh ?

    As an example, a Deco X50 Mesh configured in Access Point mode connects to regular ISP Hubs/Routers.

    If in the future the Hub 5x gets Modem mode, the Deco X50 Mesh could then be switched to Router mode.

  • !!!!!Update!!!!!
    After posting this yesterday,  I receive an email from VM saying my Yodel have a parcel booked for delivery. 
    This must be the Wifi Pod? 
    Will it work IDK?
    But defiantly strange they VM are sending me something after I post a message about my issues. 

    I will give another update when it arrives. 

    • David_Bn's avatar
      David_Bn
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      Good Afternoon The_Tonner, hope you're keeping well.

      Can you please confirm if you have any updates for us on this matter?

      Kindest regards,

      David_Bn

      • The_Tonner's avatar
        The_Tonner
        Tuning in

        Thanks @David_Bn,         Update!!!

        I received a WIFI pod and have plugged it in, in-between my router and my home office (Where i was experiencing the lowest signal)   I can now get up to 100mbps some times if doors are left open.                                                  (Better than 0-15mbps). Considering I'm paying for the 1Gig i was hoping for a bit better.                                          I assume this means the WIFI pods work with limitations? It's hard to tell.
        David can you give me an update on VM training and how i can get the support from VM to better my service if i were to call? I no longer can waste weeks days and hours on trying to get better service. 

        I would also like to note that even though i have the latest S23 Ultra phone with the capabilities of wifi 6 the router isn't set up to transmit the full 1Gig. The router only sends max 700 - 800Mbps (tested with only 1 device connected)
        When looking on the setting on the router it only shows settings for 2.4GHz and 5GHz, I assume The setting for the 6 are not on the 5x Router yet? 
        Also still no Modem/router Mode available. Any update when this will be fixed?  

        I hope you @David_Bn can give an update? 

  • legacy1's avatar
    legacy1
    Alessandro Volta

    Well VM you have done it again force router mode that breaks stuff how many people have to complain this time? if you don't like putting 3 extra ports and wifi in the useless hub that will not get used then don't!    

  • Tudor's avatar
    Tudor
    Very Insightful Person

    1. I am assured by VM that modem mode will eventually be available on the hub5x with a firmware update, but at present VM want to test it out for ‘normal’ users.

    2. The pods also require a firmware update to the hub to make them work, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with modem mode.

    3. You should have definitely been advised that it was a trial and also given access to the ‘trial’ part of the bulletin board. (Unfortunately I cannot access this trial board, but if I could I may have been able to give a better answer to your concerns.)

    You best option is to wait for a member of VM staff to get to your post to assist. 

    Do not think of buying a mesh system until modem mode is available, but there are many good WiFi access points that are not mesh and would help with your current WiFi problem.

    • Anonymous's avatar
      Anonymous

      I am about to renew my contract, is there a way to find out if i can get the Hub 5X at my property?

      Sales has no idea,

      thank

      • Carley_S's avatar
        Carley_S
        Icon for Forum Team rankForum Team

        Hi Anonymous 

        Welcome back to the community forums 

        When we roll out XGS-PON in your area we'll be sure to let you know of any available upgrades/network changes when they become an option. 

    • The_Tonner's avatar
      The_Tonner
      Tuning in

      Thanks Tudor,

      Yeah it would have been helpful to know I was a part of a trial before 3 weeks in.
      No one also told me there was a trail section of the bulletin which might have saved me the hours of trolling through the web and this forum.

      I hope VM can at least give me a indication of time scales. 

      I have tried the budget TP links but only getting around 20mbps which is poor considering im paying for 1Gig.   

      • spikey673's avatar
        spikey673
        Superfast

        Where’d you find the trial section? I’ve been looking for it for a while.

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta

    VM's WiFi Pods fully locked down Wi-Fi Repeaters i.e. they only work with 1 specific customers (DOCSIS) Hub 3/4/5.

    Wi-Fi repeaters bought in retail could perform the exact same function of extending (XGS-PON / PIA) Hub 5x Wi-Fi coverage to more of your property.   If you own the Wi-Fi repeaters you are free to configure and repurpose them as needed for operation with VM and / or any other ISPs Hubs / Wi-Fi Routers.

    • The_Tonner's avatar
      The_Tonner
      Tuning in

      But cant use a mesh system due to the lock down off the router mode. 

      Would you agree VM miss sold Virgin to me based on my original requirements? 

      • CraigT1976's avatar
        CraigT1976
        On our wavelength

        Why not?

        I have 2 SSID's in my house, my Hub 5 one and my Deco Mesh. 

        The only reason I didnt turn it into modem mode is that my upstairs TV is a pig to sync with wifi, so it still uses my virgin hub 5. Everything works perfect all over my house, top of my drive to the bottom of my garden. Just make sure only 1 of your devices is giving out DHCP (probably your hub 5x) then put decos into repeater mode and you'll be fine. Deco m4 pack of 3 are £129 for 3 at Argos currently.