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VenTooth's avatar
VenTooth
Tuning in
3 months ago

Miserable Packet Loss

I've been having persistent packet loss ever since getting on Virgin Media, thankfully I still have my old connection so I can show a comparison:

Here is the old connection from Home Telecom:

And, in contrast, this is Virgin Media:

In practice this manifests as annoying, intermittent drop outs out of calls or any sort of online games. The BQM chart only shows the "average" over time, but in practice if an external server is pinging my router it looks like:

Where you can see large chunks of time with consistent drop out, leading to averages that look like:

This varies over the day, but it never fully goes away. I am at a loss at what I can do about this.

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  • So in recent news, this is still not resolved!

    The last visit from the technician, lead to a visit from yet another technician? 

    Anyway, I really should have asked to take a picture of the app on his phone which showed the "dropouts" over time.

    The biggest slap on the face was when I saw that the day-to-day connection dropouts at my property looked like a red barcode. Constant. So it is something they are clearly aware is an issue, but unable to sort out?

    Anyway. The last thing proposed was to like, unplug all the wired devices at the house and keep everything connected only to WiFi for like a week? Just to ensure none of my devices would interfere?

    While this "test" might sound reasonable in isolation, given the context that I was reporting these issues when I had just a single computer connected to the given router (wired, or wifi, same issues), with BQM reading the same issues, AND their own external monitoring picking up the same problems?

    I feel like I'm just being ridiculed at this point. Months of complaining, endless visits, no resolution, stuck on an agonizingly long contract waiting out this miserable experience to finally come to an end.

    Should have stayed with Home Telecom.

    • legacy1's avatar
      legacy1
      Alessandro Volta

      Its like VM use a wheel with needs fixing and no problem SPIN that wheel if its like 50/50 odds

  • Just had another visit from a technician. 

    Again, nothing found, all "seems good".

    Apparently he will refer my issues to the network, although I'm not sure what good that's gonna do.

    • Tom_W1's avatar
      Tom_W1
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      Hi VenTooth thanks for your reply here, sorry this is still ongoing.

      So for clarity, there is no ping levels that we guarantee, it is only the minimum download speed guarantee that we offer.

      How are the speeds generally for you, as currently there are no outages and issues on the line at present?

      Many thanks

      • legacy1's avatar
        legacy1
        Alessandro Volta

        Don't be silly the BQM looks like ass it needs fixing.  

        You checking in the wrong place does not help matters

  • I'm still at a loss with this. It's the same problem weeks later.

    To any VM staff reading this, if there's gonna be another engineer visit there should at least be some sort of action plan?

    Like, what's the point if they end up saying "Sorry, there's nothing more we can do!"? And what else are you going to do to resolve this other than just throw another engineer appointment my way and hope that "this time it's getting fixed!"?

    • Vikki_M's avatar
      Vikki_M
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      Hi VenTooth,

      If you could please respond to my most recent private message sent on 28/08/25, I'd be happy to help further. 

  • It's been a little over three weeks since I started this post, and honestly I wish there was a way I could leave Virgin Media without paying the extortionate exit fees.

    Not to mention on top of all this I've had a full loss of service for the past day and a half, just came back a few hours ago and I was excited to test it to see if the problem had gone away.

    Pinging the gateway on 84.4.208.1 still has packet loss. Same deal happens with 1.1.1.1 and same dropouts occur when using Microsoft Teams.

     

    I've even gone as far as to figure out how to use the ping tool from the router to find the same results:

     

    • Vikki_M's avatar
      Vikki_M
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      Hi VenTooth,

      We're sorry to hear you're still having issues.

      I'll send you a private message now. 

      If you've rebooted the hub and checked all connections are secure, please respond to that message and I'll arrange an engineer visit for you. 

      Please look out for the envelope in the top right of the page and pop back to me when you can. 

  • This problem is still unresolved.

    I've had an engineer visit today, and they had swapped out the box three (3) times to no avail.


    • Kath_P's avatar
      Kath_P
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      Hi VenTooth, 

      Thanks for coming back and updating us on how the visit went. We're sorry to hear the Hub needed to be swapped a few times. 

      When a new hub is installed, it can take a few days for things to settle down. Did the engineer advise on any next steps at all?

      Keep us posted.

      • VenTooth's avatar
        VenTooth
        Tuning in

        Well. It's been a week since and nothing has changed on my end.
        However surprisingly enough whatever route BQM was using works fine now.

        But the connection itself is unusable for anything that needs a robust connection.

  • legacy1's avatar
    legacy1
    Alessandro Volta

    Well thats odd that you get timeout to the gateway but not to VM DNS normally it be the other way round unless VM have setup a ping limit on this gateway which would seem odd.

    So given you can ping VM DNS fine the fibre line should be fine its just a routing issue

    Another thing you can try is ping 194.168.8.100 which VM moved  some time ago by more hop to get to it.

    As BQM is impacted you can run  tracert 80.249.99.164

    • VenTooth's avatar
      VenTooth
      Tuning in

      If the issue was "only" visible from the pings, I could agree that it was a "ping limit" deal.
      But the problem I am trying to diagnose stems from the disconnects when trying to do voice calls, and I'm only seeing the ping packet loss in correlation with the issue.

      • newapollo's avatar
        newapollo
        Very Insightful Person

        Hi VenTooth,

        Your post of 4 days ago shows a screenshot of a hub 5x which indicates you are on VM's Full Fibre connection, however you state, "  I am trying to diagnose stems from the disconnects when trying to do voice calls, and I'm only seeing the ping packet loss in correlation with the issue."

        VM Full Fibre connections don't include a landline/voice calls option.

        Do you have a telephone connected to the hub 5x telephone port?  If so remove it and see if this  resolves your disconnection issues.

  • Bumping this issue as it is still on-going. 

    It is still rock solid when I'm tunneling through a VPN as it was yesterday, but gaming or voice chats are still out of the question without it. 

    I'm at a loss at what I can do to fix it or who I can talk to. I don't think that the support chat is even worth my time at this point. 

    • Matthew_ML's avatar
      Matthew_ML
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      Hey VenTooth, thank you for reaching out and a warm welcome to the community, we are so sorry to hear about your packet loss issue.

      We've had a look and from our end the connection is looking great, how has it been over the last few days?

      • VenTooth's avatar
        VenTooth
        Tuning in

        It has not gotten any better and I am still looking for a solution.

  • It's also worth nothing that I have just now figured out that if I use a VPN, the packet loss is fine.

    So this may be an issue with some part of the external infrastructure, and not something in my home.

    • legacy1's avatar
      legacy1
      Alessandro Volta

      really a VPN fixes that  packet loss seems odd but then it can be a routing problem and your VPN routes around the problem.

      see what happens if you ping 194.168.4.100 for a bit or if you know the WAN IP gateway that too

      • VenTooth's avatar
        VenTooth
        Tuning in

        No drop outs pinging 194.168.4.100, but pinging the WAN gateway:

        May be the weak link here.

    • VenTooth's avatar
      VenTooth
      Tuning in

      Yes. I've had other issues before this with a few engineer visits.

      But this particular snapshot taken yesterday was taken without it being moved or disturbed in any way.