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debx1
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Jitter and packet loss every day for the last few months

I've been having daily jitter and packet loss, I notice it when gaming, having video calls at work and even when just surfing the web, e.g. getting disconnected from chat apps. This is being extremely frustrating.

I'm using an ethernet cable and I have tried restarting the modem (Hub version 3), using it with and without my own router, using modem vs router mode. From Wireshark I didn't get a lot of info, but have seen up to 15s of no packets registered. I used Hyperoptic in my previous address and had 2 years of literally zero jitter and low latency with the same setup (cables, my own router, computer, etc).

BQM from today (Sunday), I have been having heavy jitter between 4pm and 8pm:

Live BQM graph: https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/3df506065f2ed90fc507dbf59591946f2584e0c0

See screenshots for channels after a modem restart, there are no logs around the time jitter was happening today:

(edited mac addresses below)

  • Hi debx1,

    Thank you for your post and welcome to our forums 🙂 
    I am so sorry to see you are having issues with your internet and packet loss. I have checked our systems and can see there is an issue with your upstream, that would require a tech. I can get this booked in for you and will pop you over a PM. Just keep an eye out for the little envelope 📩
    Thanks,

    Zoie

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    • Alex_RM's avatar
      Alex_RM
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      Thanks for the update debx1,

      I've had a look at things from our side and everything looks fine, please let us know how things have been since you last posted.

      Alex_Rm

  • jpeg1's avatar
    jpeg1
    Alessandro Volta

    That BQM was when you had the old Hub 3. Your Hub 5 will have a different WAN IP address. Did you change the BQM to the new IP? 

  • Yes, the same BQM monitor has the new external IP now. This is after this red mark on the chart yesterday, while the Hub was being swapped. So, before the mark is the old IP and Hub 3. After the red mark it's the new IP and Hub 5.

    The screenshot I just sent from today is with the Hub 5 the whole time. So not sure why there were a lot of spikes yesterday, but haven't encountered actual perceivable issues yet. I'll report back if I have packet loss issues. And thanks for the replies!

     

  • Hey, haven't noticed any issues but haven't really made heavier use on the last few days (video calls and gaming). I'll report back after a few more days.

    • Robert_P's avatar
      Robert_P
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      We have taken a look at the connection and there does seem to be some errors recorded. The hub looks to have been on for a couple of days and to see if these return can you reboot the hub and we can look in the morning to see if these errors return in the same volumes?

  • There has been a similar pattern of packet loss since my last message 3 days ago and that is disturbing my work meetings. I just restarted the router now. Most recent BQM: 

    • Kath_P's avatar
      Kath_P
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      Hi debx1, 

      Thanks for coming back to us with an update and for rebooting the equipment. Checking things again today, there is no raised area fault affecting you however some of the signal levels to the hub are too low. There are also still a number of errors being recorded. We won't be able to fix this remotely so I would like to arrange for an engineer to come to take a look at this for you. 

      I just need to confirm the address to ensure we are booking the visit on the correct account. I have sent you a direct message to allow us to do this with you in a private space. If you are using a PC/Laptop then you can just click on the little ✉ at the top right-hand side of the page to access your inbox. If you are on a mobile/tablet device then instead click on the little circle icon in the top right then select 'Messages'. 😊

      Thanks,

    • Kath_P's avatar
      Kath_P
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      Hi debx1

      Thanks for coming back to via private message to confirm your information. 🤩

      I have booked you in for the next available appointment. To view this please sign in to My Virgin Media here 👉 My VM. Once you log in scroll down to Orders & appointments then click on View your orders. Please note it can take up to 24 hours to show but you should also receive a text message with the details. You can also view this in the My VM app. If you have any issues with accessing your account or unable to see your visit, please do let us know and we’ll pop you a message to pass data protection and confirm the appointment details.

      Just to confirm, there will be no charge for this visit unless:

      • âž¡ The technician diagnoses the faults as not being caused by our network/equipment 
      • âž¡ The technician discovers that the fault or problem relates to your equipment
      • âž¡ The technician discovers that the fault or problem relates to any system that we are not responsible for
      • âž¡ The technician will confirm during their visit if any of these instances apply, and if so, a £25 charge will be applied to your account.

      Please ensure there is someone over the age of 18 present at the time of the visit. If you need to change or cancel your appointment you can do this online or via the MyVM app by 4pm the day before the appointment. If you do miss an agreed appointment for any reason, a £25 missed appointment charge will be applied to your account on the day of the appointment.

      We will continue to monitor your services and if we can see that the fault has cleared and the visit is no longer required we will cancel the appointment and let you know by text and email.

      Let us know how the appointment goes. ðŸ˜Š

      Take care.

  • The technician came 2 days ago on Wed Sep 18 and replaced some rusty cables outside the residence. Looking at the charts the drops seem smaller now, but I was still getting many 1-2s freezes during a video call on Thursday, yesterday, between 16:30-17:00. Are there any errors that you are still seeing from your side?

    I'm not asking for a perfect chart with 0.00% packet loss, I just want to have video calls that are not freezing so often.

    Cable replacement around 15:00 on Wed, there's some packet loss and latency spikes after that:

    Some drops over the day on Thu and high spikes for minimum latency between 16:30-17:00 when the video call was stuttering:

    • Matthew_ML's avatar
      Matthew_ML
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      Hey debx1, thank you for reaching out and I am so sorry to hear this.

      I've taken a look and I can see there was actually an area issue which has now ended.

      How has the internet been for you over the last few days?

  • fizz's avatar
    fizz
    Fibre optic

    Hope your issue is resolved soon... I had an issue stared off like this in Feb 2022... was only fixed in may this year (mostly) with a cable repull and some cabinet work... good luck. 

  • I didn't see any issues over the week but this Sunday afternoon I couldn't open any website for at least 5min:

    Logs on the router at that time show:

    29-09-2024 16:06:41noticeUS profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 12; Previous Profile: 12 13; New Profile: 13.;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
    29-09-2024 15:59:56criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=[redacted];CMTS-MAC=[redacted];CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

     

    • Anonymous's avatar
      Anonymous

      I can add that profile 13 is the most robust profile available to the modem (OFDMA channel). If that is not enough to overcome the noise, no other profile can.

    • Vikki_M's avatar
      Vikki_M
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      Hi debx1

      Thanks for your post and welcome to our community.

      We're sorry to hear about the service issues you're having. 

      We've taken a look at things from our side over the past few days, and this does look to have improved since Sunday when you posted.

      How have things been please?

      Have you noticed an improvement?

      Please pop back to us when you can. 

  • Things seem better in the last few weeks for regular browsing and video calls, haven't had stuttering during calls and haven't tried playing online games, so it's harder to notice small problems. The BQM is not perfect, but that's ok unless it's actually affecting me.

    • Ayisha_B's avatar
      Ayisha_B
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      We're glad things appear to be more stable debx1 

      If you do experience further issue, please let us know.