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Installation delayed by 5 months no end in sight - VM hasn't even applied for works permit

TheAnointed
Tuning in

Hi forumites, I've been trying to get Virgin Media to install since last September and I'm running out of ideas - my last hope is that someone here can help.

N.B. I'd welcome suggestions which don't involve calling offshore customer support - I've wasted hours of my life to no avail trying to resolve this way.

Here's a quick timeline of what's happened

1st Sept 2023 - I ordered Virgin Media broadband. Installation is set for 18th Sept. Foolishly, I give my current provider, TalkTalk, notice to stop service on the 9th of October

18th Sept - I wait home for the engineer. No-one comes and later that day the installation date shown in the app suddenly changes to the 23rd of October. Obviously this is bad. I spend hours on the phone begging, cajoling and threatening customer support to try and avoid the service gap. I get nowhere but do discover that on-street works requiring a permit must be completed to enable installation.

After a bunch of further changes to the install date I contacted my local council to check that VM requested a permit for the required works. On the 6th of December the council's Highways team wrote to me to let me know that no permit has been requested.

Long story short, my installation has now been delayed 6 or 7 times (current ETA: 16th Feb), VM hasn't even applied for the permit they need to do the installation work, and I'm owed approximately £830 in automatic compensation (132 days of delay + 2 unannounced no-shows by engineers).

Can anyone help?! 

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Carley_S
Forum Team
Forum Team

Hi @TheAnointed 

Welcome to the community forums 

So sorry to hear that your install has been delayed due to the permits and permissions not being requested/granted. 
We can take a look at our side to see what has been noted and raise to the correct team depending on what is happening on the account. 

I must advise that we aren't able to speed up anything through the forums, but we can certainly ensure that all that is needed is raised to the correct team so they can provide any available updates and chase any construction work needed. 

Please join me on private message so I can locate your account and pass account security. You can see your private messages at the top of the page, in the envelope icon or if you're using a smaller device, you can see your private messages by clicking on the Virgin Media logo at the top right and select 'Messages' from the drop down. 

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Carley

Thanks 15829. As you predicted precisely nothing has happened since I appealed for assistance on here. 

Can you advise on best way for me to escalate my compensation claim? Any and all advice appreciated!

Hi TheAnointed, 

Thanks for taking the time to come back to us in the Community. 

I can see my colleague escalated your complaint to the relevant team and they will be in touch once there is an update on things for you. 

In terms of any compensation, this will be automatically assessed once the installation is completed. 

Apologies once again for the delay. 

Thanks,

Kath_F
Forum Team

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TheAnointed
Tuning in

Hi all, further to the above my service finally went live on Friday the 10th of May - 234 days later than promised. In addition I spent several fruitless hours on the phone to customer service trying to work out why my install wasn't happening, endured a month without any internet in the house, and stayed home for 2 engineer visits that were cancelled without notice (or communication). 

Under the current automatic compensation scheme pricing I believe I'm due £1427 approx + £60 for the missed engineer visits without notice (and that's without anyone throwing in anything extra for the pain and irritation...)

I lodged a complaint a long time ago and have now had a really strange letter denying compensation because "the account was not liable for the auto compensation scheme". Some of the letter is close to gibberish - it doesn't sound like an English speaker wrote it. 

I'm not sure where to go from here... Try Virgin again or just go straight to the Communications Ombudsman? Can anyone who's had a similar experience advise me? Thanks!

 

goslow
Alessandro Volta

We have seen this description plenty of times on here in regards to compensation. Don't be put off.

The nonsense 'resolution' replies at the end of a VM complaint are also well-documented on here.

VM has two regular go-to excuses to try to dodge paying. The first is to try to blame 'council permits' for the delay. VM can, legitimately, reduce (but not totally cancel) compensation if part of the delay was due to waiting for a third party. VM's usual routine is to try to blame the whole of a very long delay on the council. Savvy customers, such as yourself, are able to disprove any such claims by contacting their council directly.

VM's second go-to excuse is to claim your installation date was only ever 'provisional' (which is likely what the reference to "the account was not liable for the auto compensation scheme" refers to).

The idea of a 'provisional' installation date is a nonsense that VM has invented to avoid paying out. Usually the ombudsman dismisses VM's claims but sometimes the ombudsman has considered VM's provisional claim. In that case, much was made of what the customer was told along the way while waiting for the installation to happen.

If you have your gibberish 'resolution' from VM, your next step is to reject the 'resolution' and demand a deadlock letter from VM (something they are also not good at providing). With the deadlock letter you can complain to the ombudsman as per process below

https://www.commsombudsman.org/our-process

once eight weeks has elapsed, since you complained, you can go to the ombudsman in any case (without the letter).

You need to set out your failed installation history in a timeline format (dates and times of each event in the non-installation) along with evidence linked to each events (such as texts, email, screenshots, appointment bookings etc. etc.) The adjudicator won't know anything about your case and needs an easy-read explanation to follow the sequence of events to match against the compo criteria. Past topics on here have highlighted that VM's evidence is likely to be an incoherent heap of dates and times (without any evidence to back it up).

An important date is the 'date initially confirmed in writing' when VM said it would 'activate' your service (the VM communication usually mentions something about an engineer coming to install equipment).

Sometimes VM's messages refer to needing to do outside work first of all and this is where VM will claim the install date was only ever 'provisional'.

In a past ombudsman topic, which made its way back on here, the adjudicator dismissed the provisional date claim because VM kept issuing installation dates and sending out tech's (who could not install as no cable was in place).

Take some encouragement from this topic (which AFAIK is still the record wait/compo topic) where persistence from the customer shot down all of VM's fake claims and excuses and resulted in a suitable payout

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/QuickStart-set-up-and/18-Months-later-no-connection-27-cancelle...

Good luck!

TheAnointed
Tuning in

As you can imagine, I made my complaint much longer than 8 weeks ago. I'll go to the ombudsman

Jonny-M
Fibre optic

Please report back once you've been successful, it's good to have examples to point out to encourage others to go through the claim process. 

Hi TheAnointed, 

Thanks for coming back to the Community and updating us on the installation. We're really pleased to hear that your services are now up and running. 

Checking things here, we can see the account was automatically assessed for compensation and then it was also manually checked in case the automatic review was in incorrect. As you've mentioned you've been advised you were not eligible, we would not be able to add the credit I'm afraid. 

In terms of the next steps for you, I can see you've been advised to refer to the Ombudsman and the details on how to do this is in the last complaint reply that was sent to you. Once you've raised this with them, we will no longer be able to support you with the query and you should refer to your Ombudsman handler at all times. 

We are here to help with any other queries you may have though. Feel free to keep the thread updated with your case though. 

Many thanks,

Kath_F
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