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Hazey's avatar
Hazey
On our wavelength
3 months ago
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Hub5 in Modem Mode with Netgear Router

Just upgraded to 1Gb service (hub 5). Put hub into modem mode and connected (via 2.5Gb port) to my Netgear (AC 2800 Dual Band) router. My PC wired direct to router receives nearly full 1Gb speed. Wi-Fi speed using Pixel 8 right by the router is only 600 Mbs. Also the internal Netgear (Nighthawk) speed test (which measures network speed directly via the ethernet cable between router and hub) also shows only 600 Mbs, which is a contradiction as I get 1Gb wired to the router.

Any ideas what might be happening? Any suggestions gratefully received.

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    3 months ago

    Wi-Fi is half duplex and has a heavy overheads when compared to a network cable.

    Check the wireless link rate of the Wi-Fi connection from the PC to the Router. 
    Expect considerably less real world throughput.



  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta
    3 months ago

    If the Netgear Router has a 2.5Gb/s or faster WAN port
    it must have have EEE Energy Effecient Ethernet DISABLED on the WAN port.

    If Netgear Router has a 1Gb/s WAN port try via a 1Gb/s WAN port on the Hub 5.

    • Hazey's avatar
      Hazey
      On our wavelength
      3 months ago

      My Netgear router only has a 1Gb Wan port, but I have been told to use the 2.5Gb port on the Hub 5 which should work at 1Gb regardless of the speed of the router Wan port?

  • legacy1's avatar
    legacy1
    Alessandro Volta
    3 months ago

    So its good then

    The router trying to do a speed test is just slow then packets hardware offload to NAT out/in

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta
    3 months ago

    Enabling any level of QoS or DPI on domestic routers often has a degrading effect on throughput.

    • Hazey's avatar
      Hazey
      On our wavelength
      3 months ago

      Thanks again for your help. QOS is disabled, (DPI can't see such a setting) My PC is wired to the router and consistently receives 900+ Mbs but Wifi attached only 600 Mbs (right next to router) which is the same result as when I run the Nighthawk speed test. So I'm still at a loss

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta
    3 months ago

    Wi-Fi is half duplex and has a heavy overheads when compared to a network cable.

    Check the wireless link rate of the Wi-Fi connection from the PC to the Router. 
    Expect considerably less real world throughput.



    • Tudor's avatar
      Tudor
      Very Insightful Person
      3 months ago

      Yet another reason why I only use just a router and separate wireless access points.

    • Hazey's avatar
      Hazey
      On our wavelength
      3 months ago

      Before I put the Hub 5 into Modem mode I was able to achieve Wi-Fi 900+ Mbps with the Pixel close to the Hub. However the Hub 5 doesn't provide a good service when used further away. With my old Hub3 in modem mode and the same router, I achieved the full 500 Mbps speed of the then 500 Mb service. 

      Maybe I need to upgrade my AC2800 router to a faster AX router?

      • Adduxi's avatar
        Adduxi
        Very Insightful Person
        3 months ago

        The Hub 5 is WiFi 6 so I suspect your own Router is only WiFi 5? 

    • Hazey's avatar
      Hazey
      On our wavelength
      3 months ago

      The wireless link rate is 866 Mbps

      • Adduxi's avatar
        Adduxi
        Very Insightful Person
        3 months ago

        You’ll never see that in the real world.  Those figures are from Netgear lab tests.