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HUB 4 Packet Loss - Rebooting Issues

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Hi All,
Having issues with Hub 4 connection and speed (when it's on)

I received an email on the 7th September from VM that said "We've spotted an issue with your broadband connection" and went on to say that their smart support uses clever tech to check broadband performance in the background and we've noticed that your broadband is not as fast and reliable as it should be - dont worry we've already applied a remoted overnight fix"
Then on the 9th September at 8:36 a further email from VM "Good News - Your connections in tip-top shape" The issue's been resolved and you're now getting a much more reliable connection.
We will continue to monitor things and be in touch if we need to update you on anything"

Well from 8:36 and still happening as I'm typing this - the Hub 4 white light goes from Solid Bright, Dull-White, Flashes off and on - and this has been occurring non-stop since yesterday @ 8:36.

I've tried reaching out to support by phone and the chap kept assuring me that there was nothing wrong with the Hub 4 or the internet connection --- kept referring it to wifi even when I told him I'm using Wired and Wifi (it's amazing how many people refer to internet / broadband as "WIFI")
He said that the connection is working perfectly (yet even the VM status shows there is an issue) but will escalate to 2nd level which will monitor for next 48hrs.

This is no good as it's been since 7th I've had issues but they dont care.
I also enquired about a replacement Hub - he said that a replacement would cost £50 and if I wanted the Hub 5 we will have to review your contract and increase your connection -- I'm on Gig1!!

So what I've done since the 9th "all good" email:
Turned off hub for 10mins then switched back on.
Waited 1hr to ensure all was ok but it was still cycling through Solid White light to Dull to off.
Pin hole reset.
Samknows/realspeed shows speed to the hub is 950-1000, but download speeds on the devices is not reaching over 100mb - thats on an iphone 14, Pixel 7 pro and an dell laptop (wired)

All still the same.
Thinkbroadband shows that there is a high packet loss.

Any ideas or is it a case of me having to wait for the 12th until a engineer comes out - looks in the cabinet and says all is fine? 



<a title="Broadband Ping" href="https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/188e116b8e6729c688c731a0147a77766f..."><img alt="My Broadband Ping - Virgin Media Hub4" src="https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/188e116b8e6729c688c731a0147a77766f..." /></a>


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jbrennand
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BQM looks dreadful !  Can you do this.....

Firstly, check for any “known network faults in your location - call the “check service,“free & automated” Service Status number - 0800 561 0061 - which usually gives the most up to date info. and tells you of more local issues and fix estimates, down to street cab/ postcode level.

If nothing is reported there...

Switch the Hub off for 5 minutes AND unplug it from the mains. Whilst it's off, do a quick check that all of your coax cable connections are in nice and "finger" tight - at the Hub and wall box and also at any connectors etc. Disconnect all the connections and reconnect to be sure. Ensure there are no “unterminated cable loose ends or loose wires on the connectors . Also check that the internal wiring is ok with no kinking or chaffing, check that all looks good with the outside cabling (no clips piercing, or broken sheathing) and the wall box. Then switch it on again and leave 5 minutes

Then, Post up your Hub/network connection details and someone will check to see if there is a problem there.  In your browser’s URL type in 192.168.0.1 if in router mode or 192.168.100.1 if in modem mode. No need to log in - just click on the “Router Status” icon/text at bottom-middle (Hub3/4/5) or top/right (SH’s) - of the Login page.
Then… Navigate to these “data pages” and just copy/paste the normal “Formatted Text” (not images) 3 FULL sets of data onto here – 2 tables from the Downstream, 2 from the Upstream, & the Network Logs pages. Don't worry too much about the formatting it can be easily read & DON’T include personal data or MAC addresses - blank them out - if you copy/paste the data, the board software will do this for you (you may need to click the "submit" button again). If character limits are “exceeded” - just do two posts

When all done, check back in the settings and ensure that the RS error counts and T3 errors did all reset to 0. Then check every hour or so to see if they start reappearing - they shouldn't. If they do (particularly the postRS and T3 ones) you have a problem (noise) that only a Tech visit will sort.
Also check the Upstream QAM’s are all at 64 any less is an issue


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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & TNT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi), Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

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I have 4 tables under Downstream:

3.0 Downstream channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

136225000012.59999838.605377QAM2561
237025000012.50000038.605377QAM2562
337825000011.90000237.636276QAM2563
438625000011.69999738.605377QAM2564
539425000012.00000038.605377QAM2565
640225000012.19999738.605377QAM2566
741025000011.80000338.605377QAM2567
841825000011.19999738.605377QAM2568
942625000011.19999737.636276QAM2569
1043425000011.80000338.605377QAM25610
1144225000011.69999738.605377QAM25611
2857825000010.09999838.983261QAM25628
2958625000010.30000337.355988QAM25629
3059425000010.69999737.636276QAM25630
3160225000010.50000037.636276QAM25631
3261025000010.40000238.605377QAM25632
3361825000010.30000337.636276QAM25633
3462625000010.69999737.636276QAM25634
3563425000010.80000337.355988QAM25635
366582500009.90000237.636276QAM25636
3866625000010.50000037.636276QAM25638
3967425000010.69999737.636276QAM25639
4068225000010.00000037.636276QAM25640
416902500009.50000037.636276QAM25641
3769825000010.19999737.636276QAM25637
4270625000010.80000337.636276QAM25642
4371425000010.50000037.355988QAM25643
447222500009.59999837.355988QAM25644
457302500009.50000038.605377QAM25645
467382500009.80000337.636276QAM25646
477462500009.90000237.636276QAM25647



3.0 Downstream channels

Channel Lock Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked38.60537700
2Locked38.60537700
3Locked37.63627600
4Locked38.60537700
5Locked38.60537700
6Locked38.60537700
7Locked38.60537700
8Locked38.60537700
9Locked37.63627600
10Locked38.60537700
11Locked38.60537700
28Locked38.98326100
29Locked37.35598800
30Locked37.63627600
31Locked37.63627600
32Locked38.60537700
33Locked37.63627600
34Locked37.63627600
35Locked37.35598800
36Locked37.63627600
38Locked37.63627600
39Locked37.63627600
40Locked37.63627600
41Locked37.63627600
37Locked37.63627600
42Locked37.63627600
43Locked37.35598800
44Locked37.35598800
45Locked38.60537700
46Locked37.63627600
47Locked37.63627600



3.1 Downstream channels

Channel Channel Width (MHz) FFT Type Number of Active Subcarriers Modulation (Active Profile) First Active Subcarrier (Hz)
48964K1840QAM4096759


3.1 Downstream channels

Channel ID Lock Status RxMER Data (dB) PLC Power (dBmV) Correcteds (Active Profile) Uncorrectables (Active Profile)
48Locked399.3199509110

 

 

 

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4 tables in upstream as well:

3.0 Upstream channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

13660000041.2705995120 KSym/sec64QAM3
24310000041.5205995120 KSym/sec64QAM2
32360000040.5205995120 KSym/sec64QAM9
43010000040.7705995120 KSym/sec64QAM4
54960000042.0205995120 KSym/sec64QAM1



3.0 Upstream channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1US_TYPE_ATDMA0000
2US_TYPE_ATDMA0000
3US_TYPE_ATDMA0000
4US_TYPE_ATDMA0000
5US_TYPE_ATDMA0000



3.1 Upstream channels

Channel Channel Width (MHz) Power (dBmV) FFT Type Modulation
1010.445.62KQAM128


3.1 Upstream channels

Channel Channel Type Number of Active Subcarriers First Active Subcarrier (Hz) T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
10OFDMA20853.400

 

Configuration Tab:

General Configuration

Network access
true
Maximum Number of CPEs
1
Baseline Privacy
true
DOCSIS Mode
3.1
Config file
cmreg-vmdg640-bbt076-b.cm



Primary Downstream Service Flow

SFID
27500
Max Traffic Rate
1230000450
Max Traffic Burst
42600
Min Traffic Rate
0



Primary Upstream Service Flow

SFID
27499
Max Traffic Rate
110000274
Max Traffic Burst
42600
Min Traffic Rate
0
Max Concatenated Burst
42600
Scheduling Type
bestEffort

 

Network log

Network Log

Time Priority Description
Tue Sep
10
5MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan
4Missing Mandatory MDD TLV on primary DS Channel;CM-MAC=XXXXXXXXXXXXCMTS-MAC=XXXXXXXXXXXX;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

 

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Since doing another factory reset and the above packt loss is 0.

However speed is still less than 100MB for all devices despite samknows/realspeed showing 1000MB to the hub.

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/1bbaf72988235eadf3bb30dbba5718deb8... 

 

legacy1
Alessandro Volta

You testing by PC?

try new cable

1aTTack.de 2m - CAT6a - Network cable black - 1 piece CAT 6a S-FTP double shielded PIMF 500MHz halog...

 

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Done the tests via the same method as before iphone 14, Pixel 7 pro and a dell laptop (wired) changing the Cat 6 for another cat 6 made no difference. Still less than 100mb.

 

legacy1
Alessandro Volta

what does the device link speed show?

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Sorry device link speed?

If you mean wired to the laptop it's:

Ethernet port 1 - 68, port 2 - 66, port 3 - 61 and port for 67.

I've had yet another one of those something wrong emails followed by an engineer will be out between 4pm and 7pm..

At least they can see something is definitely wrong.

legacy1
Alessandro Volta