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GeoffBrown
Tuning in
4 months ago

Blueyonder conversion to Outlook?

I am resorting to the Community because my wife has been unable to send or receive emails since 15 October.  Despite hours on the phone and a number of escalations the problem persists.  

We think it is something to do with the conversion from Windows Mail to Outlook for Windows. On or around 8 October we were both "required" to add our account to Outlook.  I succeeded with mine, my wife did not - her password was not recognised.  No problem at that stage because she was still sending and receiving via iphone and ipad.

On the morning of the 16th neither of us could send or receive emails (iphone, ipad or browser) = passwords not recognised!  With technical help mine was changed and I was up and running but Virgin were unable to help my wife.

Various reasons have been given - "secondary email disconnected from the VM account", "secondary email suspended" but despite being told that the email account was live and had been reconnected my wife was still unable to access her blueyonder emails. Calls and tickets over the past week have not progressed matters and we have just been told (paraphrased) "another 2-3 days - don't ring us we'll ring you".

We are becoming extremely frustrated and concerned because of not knowing whether medical appointments and travel arrangements are/have been changed over the last 2 weeks.  For example we are due to go on holiday this weekend and only found out, by chance, that an email (from Virgin Atlantic) had been sent to her account wanting a response. 

It would seem that her IMAP password has been changed but neither I nor VM are able to change it.  My VM account is no longer showing editing facilities on the secondary email account.

Has anyone experienced the same issue?

 

  • coenoby's avatar
    coenoby
    Very Insightful Person

    GeoffBrown wrote:

    It would seem that her IMAP password has been changed but neither I nor VM are able to change it.  My VM account is no longer showing editing facilities on the secondary email account.


    VM changed the security and authentication on their email accounts quite a while ago. That included removing the aqbility tp reset secondary account passowrds for the primary account. Now you have to access the My Virgin Media (MVM)  account of the secondary email account to reset the password.

    Also, VM email accounts in email apps and clients (such as Outlook) now need to use a VM generated "mail app" password  rather than the one you use to access the webmail account. Setting up the account up on new Outlook means you have now been affected by that change

    Sign into the My Virgin Media Account with the secondary email address, - not your primary account address.

    You will then have to provide a non VM email address (such as Gmail, Outlook.com, Yahoo etc) to receive a verification email. That non VM address will then become the username of that VM webmail and its MVM account from then on. It will not change the VM email address just the username your enter to sign into it. However, you still need to enter the VM email address in Outlook's email settings.

    Once you have  provided a non VM email address for that VM email account and verified it, just follow the instructions. You will also see a link to generate a Mail app password for that secondary email account.  Then use that in Outlook and the IPhone mail app.

    Try that with your wife's account. As I said that is how the security on VM email accounts works these days.

    Coenoby

  • Thanks but this is exactly what I tried to do before contacting VM.  The process worked for my emails but not my wife's.  I could not get beyond the first step because the password was not recognised. When I first contacted VM they said that her email account had been disconnected from my account but they would reconnect.  I have spent hours on the phone with different technicians at VM - it seems that they can see the account but have been unable to either change the password or reconnect her email to the non VM address (gmail) that VM set up - verification emails are not being received at that address.  The issue has been ticketed and escalated since 16 October.

    • coenoby's avatar
      coenoby
      Very Insightful Person

      GeoffBrown wrote:

      The process worked for my emails but not my wife's.  I could not get beyond the first step because the password was not recognised.


      Thanks for that update. Apologies for telling you what you already know it's just that so many people posting on here don't know about VM's new security process.

      If you or your wife have not already specified a non VM email address as the username for her email account then your wife's VM email address the old password should still work in the My Virgin Media Account.

      The Forum Team (VM staff who support this forum) are best placed to help you. One of them will be contacting you on this forum thread hopefully today. The only problem might be that as you have a ticket open with one of the VM support teams they may be limited in what they can do.

      I hope they can sort it for you.

      Do bear in mind though that VM stopped issuing new email accounts 2 1/2 years ago and since then new VM broadband customers have to use their existing email accounts to sign into My Virgin Media. VM have made no announcement of  their plans for their email service but clearly they don't see it as a key part of their business going forward.

      If you both have non VM email accounts then now would be a good time to start to move over to using those email accounts full time. 😉

      Coenoby

      • Adduxi's avatar
        Adduxi
        Very Insightful Person

        coenoby wrote:

        <snip> If you both have non VM email accounts then now would be a good time to start to move over to using those email accounts full time. 😉

        Coenoby


        100% this above.  IMHO all VM users should be thinking of migrating away from their email accounts.  Especially when some users have so much "important/sentimental/photos"  etc. etc stored on the email servers,  No one should be reliant on one 3rd party as the sole storage for such things.

    • Beth_G's avatar
      Beth_G
      Forum Team

      Hi GeoffBrown

      Thanks for your post. I'm sorry to hear you seem to be having issues with your Wife's email account with us. I'll do what I can to help.

      I've popped you a private message so I can take a look in more detail.

  • Five weeks on (seven weeks since reporting) after numerous conversations and escalations the issue (inability to send or receive blueyonder emails) has not been resolved.   My calls to VM always get the same response - "don't ring us, we are working on it and will ring you in the next few days".  The call comes eventually, their solution fails and the ticket gets escalated again. Has anyone had a similar problem that was eventually resolved.

    • Robert_P's avatar
      Robert_P
      Forum Team

      From checking the ticket is has been escalated and is with the relevant team, they are working on this and as soon as there is an update they will be in touch. We appreciate it is frustrating but they are working to resolve the issue for you.