Hi can someone tell me if my qam is wrong please?. My upload qam is always 64 as is everyone's I have 1 channel 32qam and 2 at 16qam I think 64 symbols is more data than 16 no?
Upstream channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
Channel Channel Width (MHz) Power (dBmV) FFT Type Modulation
6
10.8
38.8
2K
QAM8
The channel width doesn't seem right to me. As in not being centred in the upstream spectrum. 10MHz would be centred.
Indeed, if you look in the forum for threads about DOCSIS 3.1 upstream issues, nearly all of them are not centred on 10MHz.
I can't be sure that 10.8 and 10.4 (which I also see in the problem threads) are not within tolerance as I'm still learning D3.1, but the Cablelabs spec does not mention any off-centre tolerance that I could find.
I wonder what the Forum Team will make of what I've suggested and if I'm wrong, I apologise for work others may have to do!
Viper needs to know when the remedial works will be instituted to improve fibre capacity and reliability in his area. That will clear his and his mother's SNR issues and provide full upstream capacity which is currently constrained by the reduced QAM levels.
If I've got anything wrong, don't feel inhibited to correct me.
Thank you septh I can't address them as precisely and adequately but don't think they will listen either way, we have been more than accommodating for resolution but think they are just stringing me along.
Which is why I'm seriously considering sending this case in now at last.
It shouldn't bounce at all. Mine's been solid for at least 3½ years. I'm not sure of the region hopping bit; it could be that the IP address pools associated with your area have been increased or taken from somewhere else and the RIP entries haven't been updated.
That said, in theory they could configure things to draw IP addresses from anywhere in their wider area estate.
BUT, you've shown us that the hopping around has occurred during your active connections, and I can't explain that.
Mine was local septh for years till very recently, are they trying to by pass bristol for better connection? My qam haven't dropped on upstream for about a few weeks I think only once it did on 1 channel. Only my netlog which was way better has now gone insane again. Also my connection last night dropped again for the 4th time at 205am all 4 times whats that all about? That's a pattern.
4 days netlog below
Network Log
Time Priority Description
Thu Aug 31
5
MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan
3
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan
3
Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Aug 31
3
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Wed Aug 30
5
MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Wed Aug 30
3
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Tue Aug 29
5
MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan
3
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan
3
Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Mon Aug 28
3
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Mon Aug 28
5
MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan
3
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan
3
Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Mon Aug 28
5
MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan
3
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan
3
Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
I tell you, contact WHICH. If they take up your case, they'll possibly survey more widely in Bristol S and, if they discover that what you report is widespread, they'll take it up with VM and publish whatever they say. WHICH usually gets results.
However, "results" in terms of your contract would be a refund, plus possibly a commitment to place your area into their FTTP plan. But WHICH canl publicly stick it to VM.
Hey septh that sounds good I just haven't had the time to do this but they have forced my hand. I just received this from vm in pm is this legit? Surely I would notice this and it would show in router status no? If it is the case what would cause such a thing please mate.
Thanks for coming back to me Viper-t, your connection has issues with the absence of any upstream channels and you only have 1 downstream channel. You would usually have 24 downstream channels and 5 upstream channels on your connection but you only have 1 channel across both at the moment. That is the reason why, I suggested that a technician was needed, I wouldn't offer you the visit, if it wasn't necessary to resolve the issues that you're having.
Addressing the DS power range: The tech has put an equaliser onto the cable rather than an attenuator. This (which you can Google)reduces power on the lower frequencies and increases power to the higher frequencies. I find this completely pointless because the "slope" and "tilt" should all be set up at the amplifier serving the home. (All can be Googled).
Then there was this nonsense from VM that you posted:
"Thanks for coming back to me Viper-t, your connection has issues with the absence of any upstream channels and you only have 1 downstream channel. You would usually have 24 downstream channels and 5 upstream channels on your connection but you only have 1 channel across both at the moment. That is the reason why, I suggested that a technician was needed, I wouldn't offer you the visit, if it wasn't necessary to resolve the issues that you're having."
You've got 31 DS channels. Shows how little they care and bother.
I just explained and showed him lol I got 31, 3.0 and 1 3.1 downstream and 5, 3.0 and 1, 3.1 upstream. What on earth is going on at vm why would they lie just to get an engineer to me for the 100th time.
No they are not doing any work mate as its been like this since I started the bqm when she first rang about her tv always freezing, infact it's usually worse I've uploaded some. When I got time after the end of the week I'm going to contact which and ofcom as our treatment has been diabolical, and the lack of knowledge from the people involved is unreal. They should hire people like you who don't need the best part of a year to find a simple and obvious problem. I've gave them so many chances and they spit in our faces time and time again, just trying to waste time and hope it magically fixes itself. They need to be held accountable for there terrible treatment of customers.
Thanks for getting back to us, sorry that this is still ongoing for you.
After checking into our systems I see no issues which would be directly affecting you, with regards to the BQM graph, can you confirm if you have had any texts as of late confirming work being done in your area?
The SYNC etc failures at boot time are normal. At that time, nothing is in sync and the modem can't make sense of the stream of data that is nevertheless hitting it.
Hmmm it's the all day everyday part that's concerning septh, with the high latency. I find it amazing that no one at vm finds permanently dropped modulations on all 5 channels concerning.... everyday. Not its struggling at certain times of day and drops down a mod but all 5 are dropped all day everyday impacting a variety of things obviously. Everything together netlog bqm and dropped mods speak volumes of there capacity to give a damn about any customers anymore. I'm disgusted at the way there treating us in South bristol and on vm as a whole reading people's bad experiences makes me sick the way they are fobbed off with obvious lies depending on there knowledge and who they speak too, I wish I had the knowledge you do I would be so transparent to them to try to help these poor people, especially in today's climate.
What did your research reveal? Your upstream stats might be useful to see. I'd be looking for higher frequencies, although they may not have been allocated to your segment. This message suggests to me that they are working on your area to improve the upstream by adding more channels (up to 85MHz) and so relieving contention and improving speed. If the upstream is not in a state of grace when rebooting (as in they're in the process of adding channels), then, according to my understanding, the modem reacts with this error. It should go away.
Hi zach, She tells me they do not use apps and it happens on mutiple channels, we have already answered all this and 2 engineers have been already who havent fixed anything, one of which confirmed bad snr after getting off the phone with networks, though that has since disappeared and has been denied (luckily i record all encounters). They just want there tv to stop freezing, as you can see there are big problems with all the data I'm sending, I really don't know what vm want from me you have all the data the engineers haven't fixed it. So some resolution needs to happen moving forward, why does getting any problem fixed with vm take so so long? It's never ending, just give people the service you sell then there is no problem its 2023.
This does not look like a flat power spectrum, there is nearly 4db of tilt on the downstream (3.6), also the last 5 days of bqm shows terrible latency and packet loss, which is ALL the time (everyday) as previous pictures. Last night again picture froze while recording her programme, correctables are now hidden on hub5. Now this is a fault and needs to be fixed if not we will take it higher as we are not here to keep sending data to Virgin Media my parents are customers and I do not work for vm although this last year seems like I do. You will be held accountable. The problem you sent engineers for is not fixed so what is going to be done please?.
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
1
331000000
7
41
QAM 256
25
2
139000000
3.7
40
QAM 256
1
3
147000000
3.9
40
QAM 256
2
4
155000000
3.9
40
QAM 256
3
5
163000000
4.1
40
QAM 256
4
6
171000000
4.4
41
QAM 256
5
7
179000000
4.7
41
QAM 256
6
8
187000000
4.8
41
QAM 256
7
9
195000000
5.1
41
QAM 256
8
10
203000000
5.3
41
QAM 256
9
11
211000000
5.7
41
QAM 256
10
12
219000000
5.7
41
QAM 256
11
13
227000000
5.8
41
QAM 256
12
14
235000000
6
41
QAM 256
13
15
243000000
6
41
QAM 256
14
16
251000000
5.8
41
QAM 256
15
17
259000000
5.9
41
QAM 256
16
18
267000000
6
41
QAM 256
17
19
275000000
6.2
41
QAM 256
18
20
283000000
6.4
41
QAM 256
19
21
291000000
6.6
41
QAM 256
20
22
299000000
6.6
41
QAM 256
21
23
307000000
6.7
41
QAM 256
22
24
315000000
6.9
42
QAM 256
23
25
323000000
7
42
QAM 256
24
26
339000000
7.1
41
QAM 256
26
27
347000000
7.2
41
QAM 256
27
28
355000000
7.2
41
QAM 256
28
29
363000000
7.3
41
QAM 256
29
30
371000000
7.2
41
QAM 256
30
31
379000000
7.2
40
QAM 256
31
Downstream bonded channels
Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
Thanks for coming back to us, I would like to go about looking into this deeper with you, for me to do so I will go about sending you a private message now.
I know we are still going through security questions for the last few weeks but this is my mums current connection which has been terrible for months and months, picture still freezing, if anyone at VIRGIN cares less here are some more stats, post rs errors and net log still terrible as no one has fixed anything 2 engineers been neither has been aloud to do anything, confirmed snr problem from networks will virgin act?
Downstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
1
331000000
7.3
41
QAM 256
25
2
139000000
4
40
QAM 256
1
3
147000000
4.2
40
QAM 256
2
4
155000000
4.2
40
QAM 256
3
5
163000000
4.4
40
QAM 256
4
6
171000000
4.7
41
QAM 256
5
7
179000000
4.9
41
QAM 256
6
8
187000000
5
41
QAM 256
7
9
195000000
5.4
41
QAM 256
8
10
203000000
5.5
41
QAM 256
9
11
211000000
5.9
41
QAM 256
10
12
219000000
5.9
41
QAM 256
11
13
227000000
6.1
41
QAM 256
12
14
235000000
6.2
41
QAM 256
13
15
243000000
6.2
41
QAM 256
14
16
251000000
6.1
41
QAM 256
15
17
259000000
6.1
41
QAM 256
16
18
267000000
6.2
41
QAM 256
17
19
275000000
6.4
41
QAM 256
18
20
283000000
6.7
41
QAM 256
19
21
291000000
6.9
41
QAM 256
20
22
299000000
6.9
41
QAM 256
21
23
307000000
7
41
QAM 256
22
24
315000000
7.2
41
QAM 256
23
25
323000000
7.3
41
QAM 256
24
26
339000000
7.4
41
QAM 256
26
27
347000000
7.5
41
QAM 256
27
28
355000000
7.5
41
QAM 256
28
29
363000000
7.6
41
QAM 256
29
30
371000000
7.5
41
QAM 256
30
31
379000000
7.5
41
QAM 256
31
Downstream bonded channels
Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1
Locked
41
0
0
2
Locked
40
110
335
3
Locked
40
0
0
4
Locked
40
158
249
5
Locked
40
206
152
6
Locked
41
146
171
7
Locked
41
167
197
8
Locked
41
199
120
9
Locked
41
187
82
10
Locked
41
200
90
11
Locked
41
95
110
12
Locked
41
150
123
13
Locked
41
100
60
14
Locked
41
82
19
15
Locked
41
37
14
16
Locked
41
22
13
17
Locked
41
24
0
18
Locked
41
20
0
19
Locked
41
19
2
20
Locked
41
12
0
21
Locked
41
5
0
22
Locked
41
4
0
23
Locked
41
1
0
24
Locked
41
0
0
25
Locked
41
0
0
26
Locked
41
0
0
27
Locked
41
1
0
28
Locked
41
0
0
29
Locked
41
0
0
30
Locked
41
2
0
31
Locked
41
0
0
04-10-2023 09:20:35
notice
REGISTRATION COMPLETE - Waiting for Operational status
04-10-2023 09:20:31
notice
US profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 6; Previous Profile: 13; New Profile: 11 13.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;