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Duffster2's avatar
Duffster2
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30 days ago

NO WIFI COVERAGE UPSTAIRS IN MY HOUSE!!

I've been attempting to resolve the issue of no/low WiFi coverage in my home for months. In fact, years because I've been told to buy boosters - which didn't fix it - and I gave up constantly going back to Virgin to resolve. It's a gaslighting situation - apparently my fault!! That I need to invest in better boosters!! So, early in the summer I again made contact. Long story short - after very many calls, cut offs, emails - I was told to increase my broadband and charged £5 extra per month. IT HAS NOT RESOLVED THE ISSUE AT ALL!! And the so called Resolutions Team are useless. When they eventually reply to email they ALWAYS begin with "we tried calling you" when they did not!! No missed calls. No messages on voicemail. No evidence to support the claim!! As you can tell, I'm beyond frustrated and annoyed. What do I do?? 

15 Replies

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta

    Time to stop using VM Pods or any other brand of Wi-Fi Repeaters
    and focus on investing in a suitable a Wi-Fi network for your property.

  • VM has a (pretty feable but industry standard) wifi guarantee. Its Ts and Cs are here https://www.virginmedia.com/the-edit/online-safety/wifi-guarantee

    Experienced forum bods stick their hubs in modem mode and use their own better routers/networking kit. 

    You were missold your speed upgrade if you were told it would improve your wifi upstairs. Raise a formal written complaint about it via your online account. You can also demand the call recording via the dsar route https://www.virginmedia.com/help/dsar-faq

     

     

  • goslow's avatar
    goslow
    Alessandro Volta

    Anyone who is told by a VM agent that increasing their broadband speed will improve wi-fi coverage should immediately start the process to escalate a case to the ombudsman for mis-selling.

    If you are on the 1 Gbps service or on Volt, I believe you become eligible for VM's pods (assuming your reference to 'boosters' is something different).

    If you are not eligible for pods, you have to accept the fact that VM's default wi-fi from the hub may not be suitable for your home.

    Your options from there would be to get your own superior networking equipment (which may be a better router or a mesh system or additional wireless access points). Unfortunately this option is at a cost to you for initial purchase.

  • Hi Duffster2, 

    Thanks for taking the time to contact us via the Community. It's lovely having you on board with us in the Forums. ⭐

    We're sorry to hear you're having issues with your WiFi Connection. There are so many things that can influence a WiFi connection some of which include but are not limited to, a fish tank being in the same room, walls being built with concrete instead of brick, it could even be that your next door neighbours router is interfering with yours. Due to this, we are only able to offer limited help. Please have a look here.

    The Hub's location could also be causing the coverage problem so we do need to check the positioning of it. Can you please ensure the following: 

    • > Out in the open
    • > Next to the TV not behind it
    • > Away from large bodies of water (e.g. fish tanks)
    • > Away from baby monitors and cordless phones
    • > Away from microwaves

    Think of the Hub as a radio, and WiFi as the sound - the further away you are from the radio, or the more obstacles that are in the way (walls, electronic devices etc.), the quieter the radio & the poorer the WiFi. 

    If that doesn't help, you can download our Connect App which will allow you to scan areas of your home and will offer help. If a VM WiFi Pod will help, the app will give you the option of adding this. You can view more information on that here and here.

    If after going through the self-checks, you still need some help, feel free to pop back to us here so we can help further. 

    Many thanks, 

  • Tudor's avatar
    Tudor
    Very Insightful Person

    You cannot "boost" the WiFi signal, it’s totally a no no. What you can do is increase the range of the WiFi signal, but at the cost of some loss. There are various options, but the simplest to try is to install a Ethernet cabled WiFi access point back to the VM hub and you could always use two or more and turn off the hub’s WiFi signal. Another option is a Mesh System perhaps with the VM hub in modem mode, but again the mesh system slave units are far better if Ethernet cabled. Last option is your own retail router with WiFi, but this will probably not cover all your home with additional Wireless Access Points. I use a business grade router, no WiFi, with four Wireless Access Points.

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta

    You have to smile, folks have several UHD TVs, his & her latest iPhones, more CCTV cameras than the City of London Police, extreme laptops / PCs and gold plated iPads & PS5s etc ... but suggest invest a few hundred quid in what is needed to make it work really well throughout the home and the screams of horror sound like they are from the Spanish Inquisition :o) 

  • I'm a 2 person household, no UHD TVs, latest iPhones, tech, CCTV, etc. There really is no reason to have no WiFi outside the room where the hub is positioned - which is not near water, blocked by equipment, etc. I submitted a compaint - again - and have not received as much as an acknowledgement. I've requested call recording transcripts to support the fact a customer service manager advised an increased speed would resolve the issue. All the while there's little to know service and an increased bill each month! I'm not a tech person and any solutions that are offered, can I ask that they're explained in really basic terms please? I haven't a clue how to resolve this and at a complete loss what to do. Thanks! 

  • A lot of issues are caused by the construction of the home, especially if you have insulation that contains foil between floors.

    Third party routers will probably have better antenna arrays but are all limited as to power output by law, so if the signal is being attenuated a new router will not solve the issue.

    For the OP, run an ethernet cable from the router and set up a wireless access point upstairs.

    • Adduxi's avatar
      Adduxi
      Very Insightful Person
      RetiredATCO wrote:

      A lot of issues are caused by the construction of the home, especially if you have insulation that contains foil between floors.

      +1  for this RetiredATCO​   The OP should run a simple Wifi scanner on an Android based phone.  There are several on the Google Play Store.  This should show if there is any dead spots for Wifi  etc.  With this information, it should be possible to get one, or two Wifi extenders (not boosters!!) to spread the Wifi signal properly.  The OP can come back for any advice needed.

    • Duffster2's avatar
      Duffster2
      Tuning in

      No insulation between floors, the house is a basic construction. How do I set up a wireless access point upstairs, is it something I can do myself? I am techno-phobic and need this explained as if instructing a child 😬

      • Adduxi's avatar
        Adduxi
        Very Insightful Person

        The “easiest” way is Powerline Adapters.  These use your house wiring to carry the signal from the Hub.  Put one where the Hub is and connect by Ethernet cable.  Plug the other into the room you need WiFi and that’s it.  However depending on the house wiring the results can vary.  Buy them from somewhere you can return if they don’t work for you… 

    • Carley_S's avatar
      Carley_S
      Icon for Forum Team rankForum Team

      Sorry to hear this is still ongoing for you Duffster2 

      Great to see that the community are helping you further on your WiFi concerns. 
      Checking the systems on our side, I can see that there are some recommendations that might help troubleshoot further. 
      If you have made any customisations to your router's internal settings, I would recommend a 60-second pinhole reset. This will revert any customisations to factory settings and fully update the router with firmware/software updates. Please do not reboot the router whilst it is completing the pin hole request. If you have changed your password WiFi network, or the password, this would also revert to the information on the back of the router. 
      I would also recommend rebooting the router as one of the first steps taken when troubleshooting any service concerns, like computers, routers will collect data and store this within themselves. Rebooting refreshes this data that's been stored so the router can start collecting fresh data, and helps push through any updates, too. 

      Please let us know how the WiFi is after a pinhole reset and if this has improved at all for you in any part of your home. 

  • Tudor's avatar
    Tudor
    Very Insightful Person

    Unfortunately VM’s prime business is selling you a broadband connection. They supply hubs with WiFi almost as an add on, they are just basic units that do satisfy some customers. Their add on pods, if positioned correctly, do give reasonable WiFi for some users, but certainly not all. I have never used their hubs in router mode, always in modem mode with my own equipment. I use a business class router, no WiFi, and use Wireless Access Point. I get excellent WiFi everywhere even at the end of my long garden. I do happen to have a connection to a second ISP and they supply no router at all, it’s up to you to get your own.

    Speed test from my two connections;

    Sep 21 04:28:29 udmpro udmpro linkcheck[863]: linkcheck.run_speedtest(): Completed: Downlink 1153.000 Mbps, Uplink 104.000 Mbps
    Sep 21 04:29:22 udmpro udmpro linkcheck[863]: linkcheck.run_speedtest(): Completed: Downlink 947.000 Mbps, Uplink 936.000 Mbps

    • Duffster2's avatar
      Duffster2
      Tuning in

      Thanks for all the advice! I really am clueless about stuff like this and if I could be given very simple step by step instructions what to do about cables and access points, etc I'd really appreciate it! I scan my home regularly using an android and consistently get download and upload results of 1Mbps. Each room is rated as 'poor' except for living room where router is based. So we basically rely on mobile data to use the internet in the house. I'm prepared to spend money to improve once and for all, but if you see my original post I was told to upgrade spped to fix the problem and then tied into a 2 year contract! I'd been on a rolling one before. 

      • Tudor's avatar
        Tudor
        Very Insightful Person

        The best way is to run Ethernet cables between the floors and use Wireless Access Points. These should be centrally placed on each floor. Any competent electrician can do the work. You can then turn off the WiFi on the VM hub. I do not like having visible wires, routers and WAPs scattered about the home so I use ceiling mounted WAPs, they just look like smoke alarms. I’ve worked in IT since 1968 and had flood wired my home with Ethernet cables many years ago, before most people have heard of WiFi.  I have practically everything automated, lots of cameras, alarms and lights, all of which I can control remotely as I’m away from home for about 4 months a year, writing this beside the pool in Marbella.