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mr-b
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6 days ago

Latency/dropped packets for >3mo, no response from support

Hi

I logged my ongoing poor network performance issues (since installation) with support and I've not had any response to my emails chasing for updates. The status is just listed as "One of our team is looking into your issue." with my second submitted case status as below.

Maybe more than one of the team needs to look into it?

There was some maintenance in my area on the 10th which I'd vainly hoped might improve things but it hasn't. How do I escalate it (or obtain a response)?

 

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  • AI said the following - is it right?

    Downstream bonded channels (power, SNR, modulation)

    What you have

    Power levels: ~ +4 to +6 dBmV

    SNR: 35–40 dB

    Modulation: 256-QAM on all channels

    All channels locked

    What this means

     

    These downstream figures are excellent.

     

    Virgin Media acceptable ranges (DOCSIS 3.x):

     

    Power: –6 to +10 dBmV → ✔ well within range

    SNR for 256-QAM: ≥ 33 dB → ✔ comfortably above

    Channel bonding: full and stable → ✔

     

    📌 Conclusion:

    Your downstream RF signal is clean and healthy.

    This is not the cause of latency or packet loss.

     

    Downstream errors (RxMER, Pre-RS, Post-RS)

    Key points

    RxMER: ~35.5–40.9 dB (excellent)

    Pre-RS errors: present, sometimes in the thousands

    Post-RS errors: zero

    What this means

    Pre-RS errors = corrupted data before error correction

    Post-RS errors = errors that could not be corrected

     

    DOCSIS uses Forward Error Correction (FEC):

     

    Your modem is seeing noise

    But it is successfully correcting every error

     

    📌 Conclusion:

    Downstream noise exists (normal on cable), but it is not breaking your connection and not causing packet loss.

     

    This again points away from downstream as the main problem.

     

    Upstream bonded channels (this is the critical part)

    What you have

    Power: ~46.8–47 dBmV (all channels)

    Modulation: 64-QAM

    Symbol rate: 5120 ksps

    5 upstream channels bonded

    Why this matters

     

    Upstream is where latency problems usually originate on cable networks.

     

    Virgin Media typical targets:

     

    Ideal upstream power: 40–45 dBmV

    Acceptable upper limit: ~51 dBmV

     

    You are:

     

    High but not yet “out of spec”

    Right in the zone where noise or congestion causes instability

     

    📌 This means:

    Your modem is having to shout quite loudly to be heard by the cabinet (CMTS).

     

    T3 timeouts (smoking gun)

    Your data

    T3 timeouts:

    Channel 1: 11

    Channel 2: 6

    Channel 3: 10

    Channel 4: 9

    Channel 5: 7

    T4 timeouts: 0

    What a T3 timeout actually means

     

    “The modem sent a ranging request upstream, but the CMTS didn’t respond in time.”

     

    In plain English:

     

    Your modem spoke

    The network didn’t hear it clearly enough

    The modem had to retry

     

    This causes:

     

    Retransmissions

    Queueing delays

    Latency spikes

    Dropped packets (especially for real-time traffic)

     

    Even small numbers of T3s are enough to cause:

     

    Intermittent high ping

    Jitter

    Packet loss visible on ThinkBroadband BQM

    “Feels fine sometimes, awful at others”

     

    📌 T3s across all upstream channels = upstream noise or contention, not a single bad frequency.

     

    Why this perfectly matches your symptoms

     

    You reported:

     

    High latency

    Dropped packets

    Long-running issue

    Support being unhelpful

     

    Your stats show:

     

    ✅ Downstream is fine

    ❌ Upstream is marginal and noisy

    ❌ Repeated T3 timeouts

    ❌ Power levels high enough to be vulnerable

     

    This combination almost always points to one of the following:

     

    Most likely causes

    Noise ingress somewhere between your modem and the street cabinet

    Loose or corroded connector

    Damaged coax

    Water ingress (very common)

    Bad tap or splitter in the network

    Upstream congestion at the CMTS

    Especially evenings

    Latency worsens under load

    Local plant fault affecting multiple properties

    This is why frontline support struggle — it’s not visible from a single reboot test

    What this is not

     

    To be clear, this is not:

     

    Wi-Fi issues (you’d still see clean upstream stats)

    A faulty PC

    A DNS issue

    “Normal congestion”

    A downstream power problem

    A modem firmware glitch

     

    This is a DOCSIS upstream quality problem.

     

    What to say to Virgin Media (important)

     

    If you contact Virgin Media or post on the forum, use this language:

     

    “My downstream levels are excellent, but upstream power is consistently ~47 dBmV and I am seeing repeated T3 timeouts across all bonded upstream channels. This correlates with latency spikes and packet loss. Please check for upstream noise ingress or a plant issue between my modem and the CMTS.”

     

    If possible, also include:

     

    ThinkBroadband BQM screenshots (Done)

    Confirmation that this occurs on wired Ethernet (Y)

    Confirmation it happens even with the hub in modem mode (Y)

     

    This wording signals you understand DOCSIS and pushes the issue past script-based support.

     

    Bottom line (plain English)

    Your download signal is excellent

    Your upload signal is struggling

    The modem is constantly retrying upstream communication

    Those retries = latency spikes and packet loss

    The fault is almost certainly outside your home

     

    📌 This needs network investigation, not router resets.




    • Robert_P's avatar
      Robert_P
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      Hello mr-b

       

      It's disappointing to hear of the broadband connection issues experienced and problems getting support with this, we appreciate you taking the time to raise this and provide the information via the forums and welcome to the community.

       

      We can see you have spoken to the team since posting, we trust this was discussed and a resolution offered.