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J2R's avatar
J2R
Joining in
3 days ago

Migrate phone service only, to VoIP provider?

I have a broadband/TV/landline bundle with Virgin Media. Is it possible to move just the landline service away (to a VoIP provider), and if so, how? I set up a contract with a VoIP provider and want to port my number from Virgin Media. But when I get to the point in the process (at the VoIP provider) where I give details of the number I want ported, they contact Virgin and I get a message from Virgin telling me that the switch will mean that I will no longer have the broadband or TV services, which is not what I want at all! I want to maintain these for the moment and just port the number.

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  • Adduxi's avatar
    Adduxi
    Very Insightful Person

    Unfortunately, as you have found out, doing this transfer will result in having a new 18 month contract issued.  However you can still setup a new VoIP service, albeit with a different number, and port your VM number at a later date.  Depending on your VM phone service, you could possibly call divert the VM phone to your new VoIP number?
    I would highly recommend moving to VoIP btw.

  • Hey J2R, thank you for reaching out and a warm welcome to the community, we are happy to answer your questions about migrations. 

    As mentioned above this is true. Normally we send an adapter out for this.

    Have you got one of these?

  • jpeg1's avatar
    jpeg1
    Alessandro Volta

    This must be new. I moved my phone service from VM to a VOIP provider over a year ago. I never heard anything from VM. It was only the most basic phone service as it was only used for incoming calls. 

    I can understand why though because VM only use the phone service to bind customers to the broadband. It would be interesting to have a legal opinion on this because you are still paying the same whether you use the line or not. 

    • Adduxi's avatar
      Adduxi
      Very Insightful Person

      jpeg1​  Many years ago, due to “ghost calls” which I never got resolved, I ended up paying a bit more a month to have the phone service removed from my contract. I never used it nor had anything plugged into the socket, but at least I was never billed for those calls again. I never really liked the whole business of bundles ever since.

       

      • Client62's avatar
        Client62
        Alessandro Volta

        Bundles are not for us too.

        I suspect the legal opinion may you are entitled to port your phone number, but remain fully responsible for any financial commitments to the current supplier. 

        Given the VM internet and TV components are not delivered over a phone line, there is no technical reason for VM to terminate the entire service. In fact just adding a new number as the port occurs could keep the VM bundle whole.

  • nodrogd's avatar
    nodrogd
    Very Insightful Person

    Services are bundled, & these bundles attract various discounts. The phone line attracts the biggest discount, so removing it affects the pricing of everything else. The only advantage you have is that VoIP lines don’t carry a line rental charge. Do the sums, & if it is worth it go ahead.

  • goslow's avatar
    goslow
    Alessandro Volta

    While cost-of-living pressures continue, bundle options are of decreasing interest to many people, especially when they include things like an unwanted landline.

    That said, when I put my own address details into VM recently to look at pricing, I could not generate any bundle options at all which showed landline as being included. New VM cabinets have been in place for a long time in my area. I wonder if the lack of a landline option signals a changeover period for VM before a true VOIP solution is implemented.

    • J2R's avatar
      J2R
      Joining in

      Just to be clear, I'm not anticipating any kind of reduction in price as a result of this. I just want to move the port my existing number to a VoIP provider while keeping the broadband and TV. I kind of assumed it would be possible. If it isn't, then I will probably just change to the new landline number the VoIP provider gave me and terminate the whole Virgin package, moving the broadband to a different provider. 

      • Robert_P's avatar
        Robert_P
        Icon for Forum Team rankForum Team

        As advised, the package price will be based on the services you have and the discounts associated with those services. Removing one may mean that numerous discounts are no longer applicable but it all depends on what discounts you have and how they are set up.

  • jcurtis's avatar
    jcurtis
    On our wavelength

    It would be great if VM would give you the credentials for their VoIP service, rather than require an analogue phone to be plugged into the VM hub. They would still ditch the analogue line, but it would open up a world of possibilities to use modern VoIP handsets.

    I looked at porting the number out a while ago now. I gave up on the idea when I found how draconian the VM policies and pricing structure are. Not many companies can get away with increasing the cost to then consumer when actually supplying fewer services.

    • Client62's avatar
      Client62
      Alessandro Volta

      Looking at the Configuration tab of a Hub 5 kind of gives away that the VM VOIP service is on a separate 128Kb/s provision to the ATA in the VM Hubs. 

      I can kind of understand this as the typical customer of of 'land line' phone is my parents and my in laws ... folks in their late 80s and 90s that just what a telephone to plug in and to work.

    • Roger_Gooner's avatar
      Roger_Gooner
      Alessandro Volta

      Broadband and Pay TV operators like VM, BT, EE TV, Sky and Vodafone have a different business model to VoIP providers. By just plugging an analogue phone into their hub, it's job done with none of the setting up needed with a VoIP provider. VM can can prioritise VoIP traffic on their hubs and equipment in the hub sites and regional headends to ensure call quality, and  support is easier, too, as VM owns the entire network. VM does, of course, use bundling to encourage customers to subscribe to phone.

      In contrast VoIP providers typically allow customers to use their own compatible routers or dedicated VoIP phones for greater flexibility and choice and often offer more advanced features and customisation options - but more configuration is needed.

      • jcurtis's avatar
        jcurtis
        On our wavelength

        VM are really missing out as a result. They could easily partner with a VoIP provider and drag their telephony service into the modern era.

    • Anonymous's avatar
      Anonymous

      The problem is that VM doesn't actually offer a VoIP service. Although it is often referred to as such (the telephone is plugged into the hub, therefore it's going over the internet so must be VoIP), alas no.

      • Roger_Gooner's avatar
        Roger_Gooner
        Alessandro Volta

        It is VoIP as the voice is digitised by the hub's built-in ATA and carried inside IP packets to the regional headend where it's decoded and routed to the recipient.

  • J2R's avatar
    J2R
    Joining in

    OK, given the hassle surrounding this, I've decided to leave Virgin Media for PlusNet. I don't really need to keep the same landline number, it was just a bit more convenient. I'll go instead with the one issued by the VoIP provider. I'm going to save myself over £100 per month, for a faster broadband service (900Mbps), albeit without TV or phone. But I don't really watch much 'live' TV these days and can easily get by with iPlayer, ITVX, etc., and the phone side of things will now be handled by Andrews and Arnold, the VoIP provider.

    • avi68's avatar
      avi68
      Superfast

      Good choice, I've been with A&A for voip since October and it's been solid

  • jpeg1's avatar
    jpeg1
    Alessandro Volta

    Plus 1 for A&A. I found them totally professional. And not expensive either.