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jonw3's avatar
jonw3
Joining in
2 years ago

Latency issues with online Jamming (solocontutti)

Can anyone advise me on what to do with high latency.  I am a keen musician and I have been trying to use Solocontutti for online jamming and I consistently get poor latency which results in poor sound quality and a delay.  Trying sonobus was no better.  I am currently on a M250 fibre package and get ping times of more than 20ms which is higher than recommended.  Any ideas on how I can improve the latency?  I have reset the Hub 3 router but that made no difference.

 

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  • legacy1's avatar
    legacy1
    Alessandro Volta

    Nothing you can do if running the hub in modem mode don't help thats it VM would have to fix the area with more upstream

  • Depending where in the country you are and where the people you're trying to play with are 20ms may be impossible and your service may be working perfectly fine.

    Latency on VM cable is a bit higher than that of other providers due to how their network is built. 

    Without knowing what you're pinging from and to impossible to give any advice. You're at the mercy of your own Internet and, potentially, the connections of the folks playing with you. 

  • jbrennand's avatar
    jbrennand
    Very Insightful Person

    What devices are you running the music software on?

    And, have you tried connecting those devices to the VM Hub on an ethernet cable as well as wifi ?

    How do they compare?

    Also... If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc -provides a useful graphic output of your latency

    It will also allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then, click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK
    https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

  • Ilyas_Y's avatar
    Ilyas_Y
    Forum Team (Retired)

    Hey jonw3 Thanks for reaching out to us and a warm welcome to the Virgin Media Community forums. 👋🏼

    I'm sorry to hear about the issues with the connection you are experiencing.
    Have you tried the broadband quality monitor as advised in the thread?

    It will help us see where the spikes and drops are in the connection and at what times to identify any trends / patterns.
    Let us know.

    Kind regards,
    Ilyas.

  • Thanks for the advice everyone.  I am connected directly to the router via an Ethernet cable by the way.  One issue I have is other members of the family gaming while I am trying to get online jamming to work.  I would be interested to find out if I could expect lower latency if I upgraded to M500 or even Gig1?

     

    • Alex_RM's avatar
      Alex_RM
      Icon for Forum Team rankForum Team

      Hi jonw3,

      Thanks for posting, and sorry you're having some connection issues.

      I've had a look at things from our side and there are no issues showing. 

      Can you confirm if you only have this problem when online jamming?

      Have you set up a BQM as previously mentioned?

      Alex_Rm

  • legacy1's avatar
    legacy1
    Alessandro Volta

    Its not the average latency that kills you it from min to max if far apart that is bad

  • Pretty standard VM service besides their insistence on testing it every hour without your permission or any care for what you may be doing with the connection at the time.

    You're too far from London to have really good latency on VM's cable network: use another provider. 

    • legacy1's avatar
      legacy1
      Alessandro Volta

      If they tested over 10. under their own rate limits and not for are WAN IP rate limits there be no problem....but noooo has to be router mode because its easy for them giving us ping spikes but they make a good point we should really use hub in modem mode like its intended.  

      • IPFreely's avatar
        IPFreely
        Fibre optic

        legacy1 wrote:

        If they tested over 10. under their own rate limits and not for are WAN IP rate limits there be no problem....but noooo has to be router mode because its easy for them giving us ping spikes but they make a good point we should really use hub in modem mode like its intended.  


        The hub is intended to be used in router mode. Modem mode is a software bridge to avoid the routing functionality. It's a router pretending to be a modem.

        They can't test below the rate limits: the whole point of the tests is to ascertain the performance.

        What they should probably do is either make the testing opt-in or not test if there're significant levels of traffic going across the hub.

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous

    Your physical location combined with VMs use of DOCSIS makes it very unlikely you'll get below a 20ms ping.