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houghton19's avatar
houghton19
Tuning in
11 months ago

FTTP new install and my existing tech….

Just looking for a little bit of info, hoping to finally get better internet speeds with VM installing new network locally, despite my street being done in November, I’m still awaiting turn on and install date, but looking for early advice as I maybe changing a few things around the house soon. 

At the moment the village I live in can only get services offered by Openreach, due to city fibre losing a local contract out long wait for decent speeds continue. So at the moment I moved my socket using a cat5 cable crimped with jelly crimps and NTE moved to my favoured router location. I may look to move this to the garage or loft in near future. So I’m wondering, when I can finally get VM, this is looking to be FTTP as they have blown fibre down the tubes to the VM marked plastic lid at my garden. At the house end is a ONT fit internally so I can use my existing cat 5 (only about 10m) I also have had a 2.5gb connection over this cable from router to pc with a 2.5gb NIC so I know the cable is ok for 1gbps). 

I would be looking at ordering either the 1gbps or 2gig if available at a decent price. I currently run a Asus GT-AXE16000 that has a 2.5gb and 2x10gb ports so should handle everything ok. 

is it a ONT style like Openreach or is it like when I was on old VM co-axe and had to plug my router into the VM router set to modem mode? 


also does anyone have asus router setting so I have them early. 

thanks. 

  • houghton19's avatar
    houghton19
    Tuning in
    11 months ago

    That isn’t what I wanted to hear but thanks for your reply. I assume there isn’t any other way around that, ie using a Openreach ONT or a different modem?  Is the fire spliced outside like OR? 

    • carl_pearce's avatar
      carl_pearce
      Community elder
      11 months ago

      No, VM do not allow you to use your own ONT.

      The fibre will be run into your home, terminated in a wall socket. You are then provided a lengh of fibre cable to plug the HUB 5x into the wall socket.

  • Roger_Gooner's avatar
    Roger_Gooner
    Alessandro Volta
    11 months ago

    It's standard practice for the fibre to be terminated outside and, for XGS-PON, to be run to a combined ONT/router (unlike Openreach where the ONT is separate and fixed to the inside wall).

  • houghton19's avatar
    houghton19
    Tuning in
    11 months ago

    Thanks for all replies, I’ve got more to think about now than when I first posted 😂😂. Can I set the hub to direct all traffic to a specific ip address? Wondering if I can just forward all traffic to my asus. Arghhhhhh. Wonder how long the modem mode will take to bring in. I knew there would be some issue with just jumping from one to another 😂

    • carl_pearce's avatar
      carl_pearce
      Community elder
      11 months ago

      You can port forward (Assuming the same options are available on the HUB 5x as older HUBs), however, I'm unsure if it will result in the desired outcome:

  • jpeg1's avatar
    jpeg1
    Alessandro Volta
    11 months ago

    If you are going for the 2Gbps you'll need better cable than your Cat5.  Cat6 will do the job. 

    • houghton19's avatar
      houghton19
      Tuning in
      11 months ago

      I’ve already got it running at 2.5gbps. So I have 2 cat 5 cables (not sure if cat 5 or cat 5e but on the roll it just said cat5). I have one that I’m using for the copper (I actually work at OR so hence why I know about their options). Used the cat 5 running externally to move my NTE to my router placement then the other cat 5 going to my pc is approx the same distance and this has a link of 2.5gbps so should be ok, anything longer or if it wasn’t then I would. 

  • houghton19's avatar
    houghton19
    Tuning in
    11 months ago

    I might just have to put up with double Nat to start with, I can always try port forwarding all traffic to my current router, I have a no-ip account so I’m hoping that my asus router can still see the wan ip and let me connect via that even behind the VM one. 

    • legacy1's avatar
      legacy1
      Alessandro Volta
      11 months ago
      houghton19 wrote:

      I might just have to put up with double Nat

      Yup that all you can do with hub 5x then DMZ to your router its a crap solution for a WAN IP 

      You don't want to be on VM LAN for your LAN

  • Roger_Gooner's avatar
    Roger_Gooner
    Alessandro Volta
    11 months ago

    If the hub 5X's DHCP can be disabled you can have the Asus in a LAN to LAN configuration (on the same subnet of course).

  • Adduxi's avatar
    Adduxi
    Very Insightful Person
    11 months ago

    I believe the only WAN IP will be allocated to the Hub 5X.  Your ASUS will be on a LAN IP as there is no modem mode on the 5X.

  • Roger_Gooner's avatar
    Roger_Gooner
    Alessandro Volta
    11 months ago

    Yes, that's right and the Asus will get broadband from its LAN port as a network extender so long as it has a static IP address within the same subnet (preferably not in the hub's DHCP range, e.g. 192.168.0.250), the subnet mask is also 255.255.255.0 and its DHCP server is disabled (as you only want the hub's DHCP server to be allocating IP addresses). A reboot of the Asus would probably be needed to get this working.