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thebands
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Final Bill!?

Hi,

I gave notice of cancellation to VirginMedia on 26th April. My services are due to stop on the 26th May.

Before I log a formal complaint can someone tell me why Virginmedia have just sent me a bill for £107 covering the period 30 May to 29 June please?!

In fact why did my previous bill, also £107, cover the period up until 29th May when my services will stop on the 26th May? The May billing period should have been the last and should have been pro-rata'd. Neither of the bills mention actually being a final bill, both mention 'package changes' but don't specify what those package changes are.

What on earth are VirginMedia playing at and how do I get this sorted?

22 Replies

  • goslow's avatar
    goslow
    Alessandro Volta

    VM continues to bill you as per normal right up until the day you are disconnected (so the bills keep on coming as per their normal schedule).

    Shortly after you are disconnected you should receive a final bill. If you are in debit, you pay the balance and leave VM. If you are in credit VM should refund you (although not necessarily quickly).

    https://www.virginmedia.com/support/help/billing-and-payment/bill-explainer/my-final-bill-explainer

    Once you have been disconnected you should receive returns packaging from VM (although non-receipt of packaging is a regular source of complaint on here). You may need to request it.

    https://www.virginmedia.com/help/return-or-recycle-equipment

  • japitts's avatar
    japitts
    Very Insightful Person

    thebands wrote:

    both mention 'package changes' but don't specify what those package changes are.


    Post up a redacted copy of the bill for a second opinion if it would help. Have you made any changes to your services on the dates listed against the "package change".

    goslow has already answered about the final bill process, but as a headline view - until you are actually disconnected, there is the possibility you may remain a customer. And so billing continues - this is common across the UK telecoms industry.

  • "VM continues to bill you as per normal right up until the day you are disconnected (so the bills keep on coming as per their normal schedule)."

    So can anyone tell me how long after my disconnection date (26th May) does it take VM to produce my final bill and how long after that until they credit back anything they owe me?

    It stinks of sharp practice, knowingly taking monies from customers for periods where the contract is ended. Says it all really about the whole retention process, the enormous price hikes to long standing customers (£107 for broadband and TV with BT Sport!; that's £1300 a year, think about it!), the 'offers' that are only available for new customers, the way that disconnections hang up on you when trying to cancel, the way that disconnections lie to you (yes lie! They actually told me that if I waited another month to cancel that the prices might go down - as if!), the way that 3rd party firms suddenly start phoning you multiple times a day after you have cancelled, never leaving a voicemail. The way they try to sell broadband speeds, Gigabit speeds that your average household could never really take advantage of. Horrible company. Can't wait to be rid.

    • japitts's avatar
      japitts
      Very Insightful Person

      thebands wrote:

      So can anyone tell me how long after my disconnection date (26th May) does it take VM to produce my final bill and how long after that until they credit back anything they owe me?


      Read through https://www.virginmedia.com/help/leaving under "how does my final bill work?"

  • Read through https://www.virginmedia.com/help/leaving under "how does my final bill work?

    "If your account is in credit, the amount will be refunded to you 45 days from your disconnection date (we need this time for everything to be updated with any additional charges or credits once your account has been closed)."

    Proves my point! There is no rational reason why VM need to take monies beyond the disconnection date and no rational reason why it takes 45 days to process a refund in a modern digital based company. Enjoy the 45days interest you are making on my £107 VM you bunch of money grabbing *****. I don't think I will entertain being a VM customer ever again.

    • unisoft's avatar
      unisoft
      Knows their stuff

      After disconnection, you will probably find if that money has not yet been taken, it will be re-adjusted in My Virgin media Portal for billing and be wiped out. Ignore the emails that come in near disconnection as they are stupid and wrong. Mine said I owed money and to pay immediately. Of course I owed money, as the last "proper" months bill had not be taken by VM themselves by Direct Debit yet as not the usual date as yet.

  • Hello thebands

     

    Sorry to hear of the confusion around the bill received following your request to disconnect services.

     

    As the other members of the forums have advised, we require 30 days notice to cancel services. During this time we will continue to bill you as usual so a bill will be received during that time. Once the services are disconnected a revised final bill will be produced taking into account any payments made for services after the disconnection date.

    Depending on the balance at that time, we will request the revised amount form your bank or arrange for a refund of any credit balance there may be.

    • thebands's avatar
      thebands
      Dialled in

      Hey RobertP, thanks for the reply.

      But if you take the time to read my complaint VM have billed me for a period AFTER my disconnection date, having ALREADY GIVEN 30 DAYS NOTICE, and then apparently it will take a further 45 days to get the MONEY I DO NOT OWE TO VM REFUNDED

       

      • Sabrina_B's avatar
        Sabrina_B
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        Hi thebands 👋.

        Thanks for getting back In touch with us, If there Is a bill that has already generated during this 30 day notice period you can receive another bill, depending on how your 30 calendar days fall for your billing, shortly after the system will update and rectify any billing with refunds that are due back to the customer. 

        Sabrina

  • japitts's avatar
    japitts
    Very Insightful Person

    VM have billed you for a period after your proposed disconnection date, but until your services are cancelled, they remain live.

    If the bill were generated after an actual disconnection, that would be different.

    There might be a bill adjustment between disconnection & DD being taken, but that's another issue.

  • So my contract and service ended on 26th May.

    My final bill was calculated on the 28th May and I was £15.71 in CREDIT

    Yesterday 06th June VirginMedia have taken a Direct Debit from my account for £107.00 !

    When will VirginMedia correct this and refund me the £122.71 they now owe me?

    This is a breach of the Direct Debit Guarantee so unless someone can assist with getting this refund processed quickly by VirginMedia then I am considering raising a complaint accordingly.

     

    • unisoft's avatar
      unisoft
      Knows their stuff

      as per original reply:

      "it could have taken up to 45 days to appear in my bank and I think it took around 21 days. Sometimes they refund electronically and other times a cheque is sent."

      If your actual disconnection was too close to a date the DD would be taken, then its correct to still take it, as I am afraid this is in the contract T&C's in terms of billing up till day of actual disconnection. It sounds lie after adjustment you will get £15.71 refund due. The my Virgin Media billing portal is the authoritative source (compared to emails sent), and an adjusted bill appears a few days after actual disconnection.

    • japitts's avatar
      japitts
      Very Insightful Person

      thebands wrote:

      This is a breach of the Direct Debit Guarantee


      Breaches of the direct debit guarantee should be taken up with your bank directly. Although this may depend on the interpretation of an invalid DD having been taken. If the payment taken matches that on your bill, I suspect this would be viewed by your bank as accurate.

      • thebands's avatar
        thebands
        Dialled in

        " If the payment taken matches that on your bill, I suspect this would be viewed by your bank as accurate."

        My final bill (28th May) states VirginMedia owe me £15.71CREDIT how can taking £107 out of my bank account (6th June) be considered accurate?

  • Knowingly taking an additional payment 10 days after the contract has ended and a final bill produced when no monies are owing is clearly a breach of the Direct Debit Guarantee. I will be complaining as such both to my bank for an immediate refund of the £107 and to OFCOM over the unscrupulous behaviour of VirginMedia.

    I might accept that the refund of the £15.71 might take a few days but there is zero reason why VirginMedia should be taking additional payments out of my bank after the final bill has been produced.

    As I have said previously, for a modern digital company there is no excuse.

  • You should see the mess leaving with One Touch Switching causes VM. You get disconnected fine on the day of the switch, you get an email saying they're sending out a package to return your hardware. VM then sends you an email the same day saying what your early leaving fee is. You think everything is going to go swimmingly.

    Then it all goes completely pearshaped. VM take payment as normal for that month, then create a final bill crediting you for that last payment they just took, followed by another bill a few days later saying you didn't pay your last payment (after taking it!) and adding another £60 to the earlier quoted leaving fee.

    Honestly, in my experience VM make it as difficult as possible to leave them. If you could PM me too Ashleigh_C it'd be much appriciated.

    • Carley_S's avatar
      Carley_S
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      Hi misterbuggerlug 

      Welcome back to the community forums. 

      Sorry to hear of your poor experience with the One Touch Switch process. 

      If you were still in your minimum contract term then you would be charged an early disconnection fee for leaving your contract early. 

      Bills are generated as normal until your disconnection date is actioned, after this a new final bill is generated that will prorate any dates that you've already paid in a previous bill. 

      Are you disputing the early disconnection fees or are you unsure of your final bill at this point?

      • misterbuggerlug's avatar
        misterbuggerlug
        Dialled in

        At Martin's request I forwarded last Friday the email titled "Important: Your Virgin Media switching information" I got from disconnections@account.virginmedia.co.uk on 10th October to the email address he provided me with "FAO martin" as the header.  I have also messaged Martin this morning in the thread of my PM's but as yet haven't had any response.

        I don't want to have to go down this route but if my disputed final bill is not resolved by this Friday I will register a complaint with the communications ombudsman.

  • Yes I'm disputing it. To have one email from VM on the date I switched specifically saying

    Switching ref: 0615889413

    YouFibre Limited let us know that you’re switching your Broadband over to them on 24 October 2024. Although we hope you change your mind, here’s everything you need to know about your switch.

    £304.13 Early Disconnection Fee

    I was disconnected on that date from VM. Then I've now got a final bill saying i've missed a payment (when my direct debit is still set up with you and i've had a credit added for £27.99) then the bill now states...

    Total Early Disconnection Fees 24 October £364.96

    I have never missed a payment and my account is up to date, so it is very confusing to say the least. Why send me an email requesting £304.13 and then another a few days later for £364.96???

    • Martin_N's avatar
      Martin_N
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      Thank you for that information. We can certainly take a look at the account to see what the missed bill is regarding. 

      I will private message you now to confirm your details. 

      ^Martin