Is it possible to revert to TiVo ?

[arrgee1991]

I have had 360 for a short while and to be frank I don't like it for umpteen reason including no SD channels, no way of going back on last channel, no wish lists and a bonkers remote that is not usable in the dark.  Can I revert back?

[KeithLeonard]

The simple answer is no as once you have taken the plunge to the 360 you cannot revert back to the Tivo/V6 box.

Can you please go into more detail.the problems you are having with your 360 box.

[nodrogd]

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@arrgee1991 wrote:

I have had 360 for a short while and to be frank I don't like it for umpteen reason including no SD channels, no way of going back on last channel, no wish lists and a bonkers remote that is not usable in the dark.  Can I revert back?

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If you migrated voluntarily, then no. Bear in mind that a lot of SD channels are being removed now, so even if you still had TiVO you would lose most them eventually (Sky News SD disappeared recently as Sky stopped broadcasting it in SD). The use of MPEG4 transmission means you do not lose as much recording space with HD than you used to. More & more services are now V360/Stream exclusive & it’s only going to get worse.

[BlueLou]

If you press the TV button to the right of the Home button it takes you back to the last channel. Or you can hold down the mic button and say “last channel”

[Roger_Gooner]

The big advantage the 360 has over the V6 is the voice control, so learn how to use it.

[japitts]

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@Roger_Gooner wrote:

The big advantage the 360 has over the V6 is the voice control, so learn how to use it.

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I'd argue that's a difference, rather than necessarily an advantage. As with all things TV360, whether one platform is better than the other comes down to individual usage.

I find the one key-press between live TV and recordings, a massive advantage of TiVo/V6. Others will argue that voice-control is a reasonable substitute.

The exact amount varies between channels, but the V6/360 HDD can hold between 300-400hours of HD recordings these days.

[Tavis75]

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@KeithLeonard wrote:

The simple answer is no as once you have taken the plunge to the 360 you cannot revert back to the Tivo/V6 box.

Can you please go into more detail.the problems you are having with your 360 box.

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Some of the missing features are as follows; Wishlists (where you can set the box to record programs on certain subjects or featuring certain people), undelete, series link+, series link manager, suggestions, setting of series links for programs not in the current TV guide, ethernet control, keyboard support via USB, switching between tuners with constant buffering, skip-back on fast-forward, quickplay, default recording options, cancelling individual recordings from a series link, multi-channel series links, radio channels allowing recording of radio, separation of recordings between boxes, watching recordings when internet is not available and probably a few others I've forgotten.

Also, extra boxes do not have their own hard disks or tuners (unless converted from a V6 box), so you lose storage space and recording ability and are also reliant on the main box being on to watch and set recordings and also on having a decent wi-fi signal (or ethernet cable) between the two boxes when watching recordings.

[arrgee1991]

@nodgrod

If you migrated voluntarily, then no. Bear in mind that a lot of SD channels are being removed now, so even if you still had TiVO you would lose most them eventually (Sky News SD disappeared recently as Sky stopped broadcasting it in SD). The use of MPEG4 transmission means you do not lose as much recording space with HD than you used to. More & more services are now V360/Stream exclusive & it’s only going to get worse.

I migrated because of the email telling me I needed to upgrade to get Sky Sports +.  If it is going to get worse, I really want to revert to TiVo.

[japitts]

Nothing is being removed from V6 that is currently available, but new services won't be added.

The exception being the Sky Sports HD multiscreen, which is being developed for V6 but with no timescale.

[newapollo]

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@arrgee1991 wrote:

@nodgrod

If you migrated voluntarily, then no. Bear in mind that a lot of SD channels are being removed now, so even if you still had TiVO you would lose most them eventually (Sky News SD disappeared recently as Sky stopped broadcasting it in SD). The use of MPEG4 transmission means you do not lose as much recording space with HD than you used to. More & more services are now V360/Stream exclusive & it’s only going to get worse.

I migrated because of the email telling me I needed to upgrade to get Sky Sports +.  If it is going to get worse, I really want to revert to TiVo.

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Hi again @arrgee1991 

I think you've misread what nodgrod was saying. 

He was indicating that that the tivo based boxes won't be seen as a priority going forward and won't be receiving all of the new apps and services that are being introduced to the Horizon platform (TV360 and Stream boxes) 

The V6 boxes won't have Sky Sports+ available for the start of the new football season, in fact there isn't a timeline for it's implementation on the V6,  but Sky and VM are investigating feasibility on that box. It might take a lot of testing and coding.  It will never become available on the TiVo (heck the tivo even has problems playing iPlayer). 

The tivo based boxes will eventually be phased out, as I understand it VM's owners Liberty Global want everyone on the horizon platform.  VM are currently in the process of offering free migrations to Virgin TV 360