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ruddlesdin's avatar
ruddlesdin
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2 years ago

How can I change my Hub 4 internal IP address from 192.168.0.x

How can I change my Hub 4 internal IP address from 192.168.0.x

The option is there in the Advanced - DHCP settings but no matter what number I choose (192.168.20.x or 192.168.5.x) it laways says 'The starting IP address you have entered is used for other functions of the Hub 4. Please enter another.' after apply the new settings.

It appears I am stuck with 192.168.0.x and I don't want to be as it is causing conflict issues my VPN service

  • legacy1's avatar
    legacy1
    Alessandro Volta
    2 years ago

    No VPN service I know of uses 192.168.0.x

    If you want to change this you can get your own router with1Gb ports and put hub in modem mode 

  • ruddlesdin's avatar
    ruddlesdin
    Joining in
    2 years ago

    Is there anyone who can offer any suggestions that don't involve putting the hub in modem mode and buying a new router?

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta
    2 years ago

    Your comment about a VM Hub DHCP range of 192.168.0.xxx clashing with the VPN is not going to be true.

    I've spent three decades in the IT industry, and never once have I asked a person with an office laptop what is the IP range of your home internet. Why ? Because it is expected to be totally unknown and we expect our office VPNs to work perfectly with what ever folk have at home and what ever they use at a hotel or airport.

    • marcuspd's avatar
      marcuspd
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      10 months ago

      Well you've lived a very sheltered career then, because loads of SMALL businesses have the range in 192.168.0.x/28 . This is a stupid idea from Virgin Media and causing me tons of issues. I found this post, because they're trying to change my home address to one. 

      They're useless to anyone trying to route VPN to a remote network on 192.168.0.x/28, which contrary to all the supposed "experts" on here, so exist. I have at least 6 business customers using it and almost as many using 192.168.1.x/28. 

      What's the point if I end up having to use it in modem mode, so I can put a Draytek or any basic function £20 router which has more flexibility than the naff and useless Hub 4? 

      • legacy1's avatar
        legacy1
        Alessandro Volta
        10 months ago
        marcuspd wrote:

        Well you've lived a very sheltered career then, because loads of SMALL businesses have the range in 192.168.0.x/28 .

        and they also know many home routers use 192.168.0x/24

    • marcuspd's avatar
      marcuspd
      Joining in
      10 months ago

      Easy. VPN can only route properly if remote and local subnets are on a different range. 

      If both remote and local are using 192.168.0.x/28, when the local PC wants to fins a resource (say 192.168.0.100) on the remote network, the PC and router doesn't know whether it will be on the local network, or to route it through the VPN tunnel to the remote network, as both use the same IP range. 

      Older hubs let you change the local subnet to something more unique, not the same as almost every other router out of the box, uses. 

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta
    10 months ago

    "lived a very sheltered career then"  ... A good job I've had my G&T that is pathetic.

  • legacy1's avatar
    legacy1
    Alessandro Volta
    10 months ago

    Or...we can always blame VM for doing router mode if they just stuck to their guns a give us a modem none of this would be VM or businesses problem.  

  • RDF's avatar
    RDF
    Superfast
    10 months ago

    Are you setting the fourth octet to 1? Could it be insistent on using .1 for itself?

  • legacy1's avatar
    legacy1
    Alessandro Volta
    10 months ago

    I tell you what then IF VM do modem mode for the hub 5x then it be fine😋

  • RDF's avatar
    RDF
    Superfast
    10 months ago

    Maybe the redesigning of VM's business model / services could be a new thread and we just try and help @ruddlesdin sort out their problem ?

    eta - OOPS just realised the OP was from December so probably sorted it by now.

     

     

  • Steve_Pitts's avatar
    Steve_Pitts
    Tuning in
    31 days ago

    Do I take it from the lack of useful replies in this thread that there is no way to operate the Hub 4 on any network other than 192.168.0.x? I've just accepted a new hub from VM because of potential security considerations with the Super Hub 2 that I've been running my household network on for years, and I would like to use a different 192.168 subnet, as I have been doing since well before there were 'Super' Hubs involved. I get the same error message as the OP - The starting IP address you have entered is used for other functions of the Hub 4. Please enter another. - what ever value I put in the first box on the DHCP panel starting address, despite the fact that it makes changing this octet an option.

    • Roger_Gooner's avatar
      Roger_Gooner
      Alessandro Volta
      31 days ago

      You cannot change 192.168.0.x. You should be using the hub's DHCP server to dynamically assign IP addresses for your devices except in the few cases where you need to fix an IP address within the DHCP reservation range or statically set it outside the DHCP reservation range.

      • Steve_Pitts's avatar
        Steve_Pitts
        Tuning in
        29 days ago

        An interesting use of 'should' - the router should allow me to specify spaces in my passwords and should permit any combination of characters in those passwords but those things aren't true and apparently I should be using 192.168.0.x how ever much of a pain that turns out to be and despite the fact that the DHCP settings interface seems to imply that it should be possible to specify a different range. Hey ho.

      • Steve_Pitts's avatar
        Steve_Pitts
        Tuning in
        29 days ago

        Perhaps so. I'd love an explanation of why the interface allows me to specify the last two octets of the IP range but then refuses to accept any value other than zero in the first one, no matter what values I specify for the last octet or the device count, but it seems there is no explanation and absent any firmware update over the current life of the device it would seem that that isn't going to change.

        Something of a shame as what should have been a trivial switch is causing me more grief than I'd bargained for.

    • legacy1's avatar
      legacy1
      Alessandro Volta
      31 days ago

      Use modem mode and your own router

      • Steve_Pitts's avatar
        Steve_Pitts
        Tuning in
        29 days ago

        The sad part is that the Hub 4 is giving much better wifi signals than the old Hub 2 and the not spots inside the house have all but disappeared so I'd rather not replace it with something that potentially doesn't, just wish it had one fairly basic function working. Never mind, I'm working my way through the pain of changing to 192.168.0 and hopefully it won't keep biting me for much longer.