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Unmanaged Switch connection to Hub 5

Hi there,

Currently, on another internet provider I have the follow set-up (Sky Box used for an example) Sky Box - Unmanned Switch - Etherenet - another Unmanaged Switch (about 3 rooms away) - router and then out onto the internet (and vice versa).

I haven't  yet ordered the VM 1gig service as the customer service agent couldn't / wouldn't tell me if this configuration would work with the VM Hub (i'm 99% certain it will) but i am moving and the pre-site survey is looking like it will only be done close to the moving day.

BT will only supply 1 connection into the new house (I have one line for my home number, and another line for my internet connection atm) so I have the choice of keeping my home number, dropping my current internet provider and moving to VM, or dropping my home number and keep with my current provider and using mobile phone for incoming / outgoing calls. I work at home, and have a number of internet connected devices attached to my switches, so the 1gig 9or even 2gig) would be a definite advantage for me. But closing my current provider and then finding VM can't duplicate my current set-up would be disastrous. 

Getting confirmation that my set-up would or wouldn't work will be much appreciated (and mean that i can go back to filling boxes!)

  • A VM connection will either be co-ax cable (up to 1Gb) or if you are in a Nextfibre/VM area it will be XGS-PON fibre (up to 2Gb).  The co-ax Hub could be either a Hub 4 or Hub 5, both can be used in modem mode with a separate Router if needed.  The XGS-PON fibre is a Hub 5X that has no modem mode, so needs to be used stand alone. 

    Both of these Hubs can be used with unmanaged switches to distribute cable connections around the property.

    As for your landline, you could port the number to a VoIP supplier and use VoIP and therefore will not be tied to any ISP supplier.  As long as you have internet from a.n.other you can still use the same landline number over VoIP.

  • Adduxi's avatar
    Adduxi
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    A VM connection will either be co-ax cable (up to 1Gb) or if you are in a Nextfibre/VM area it will be XGS-PON fibre (up to 2Gb).  The co-ax Hub could be either a Hub 4 or Hub 5, both can be used in modem mode with a separate Router if needed.  The XGS-PON fibre is a Hub 5X that has no modem mode, so needs to be used stand alone. 

    Both of these Hubs can be used with unmanaged switches to distribute cable connections around the property.

    As for your landline, you could port the number to a VoIP supplier and use VoIP and therefore will not be tied to any ISP supplier.  As long as you have internet from a.n.other you can still use the same landline number over VoIP.

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      HandCannotErase
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      We are in a Nextfibre / VM area (it is impossible to walk anyway without stumbling over re-filled fibre-duct). I'll transfer my landline number from BT (as you say, i've been through the process of 'certainly not - No - i'll have to ask my engineers - (three weeks waiting) - small chance - probably - yes but with a complex set-up - oh alright, yes you can do it' ). I've lost my will to live after the telephone fiasco so just BT if I am certain that my configuration is not going to have any issues.

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
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    We have 3 former BT numbers now all with a VOIP provider,
    not having those numbers as part of an ISP bundle was very critical for us.

    The concern is ISPs will go to the ends of the earth to frustrate your wish to port
    a telephone number that is part of a multi service bundle.

    • HandCannotErase's avatar
      HandCannotErase
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      See above with trying to transfer one phone number. If BT would provide 2 lines into the house (the best i've got is 'you know, new technology and all that) quite frankly I would stick with my current provider that i've been with for over 20 years and constantly win the Which Internet Provider awards.

  • The only note would be to ensure all the switches are Gigabit rather than 10/100, and the ethernet cabling is greater than CAT5 (CAT5e should be sufficient) as:

    • The new HUBs don't play well with older hardware.
    • you wouldn't see anywhere near Gig1/Gig2 speeds on some devices in your network.
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      I've got Cat7 installed, but good pick-up on the switches, need to buy a set of Gigabit ones. As long as I am getting a significant upgrade on my current speed (70Mbps down, 16Mbps up) then I will be happy.