Setup1Gb connectionHub5 in router mode 192.168.0.1 (needs to be router mode because of pod)DHCP 192.168.0.2 reserved for tplink router using its mac addressBlack podCat 6 cable to TPLink AX50 WAN portAX50 in router mode (needs to be router mode as I need functionality that is lost in AP mode)AX50 Internet (WAN):IP: 192.168.0.2 Default gateway: 192.168.0.1subnet mask: 255.255.255.0AX50 LAN:IP: 192.168.1.1subnet mask: 255.255.255.0Static link added:Network destination: 192.168.0.0Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0Default gateway: 192.168.0.1Interface: LANEverything works fine except I can't connect from a device on 192.168.1 to a device on 192.168.0(I have a samba server I'd like to be able to access from both 192.168.0 and 192.168.1 - dont care which subnet its connected to if this makes things easier)I also tried a route to 192.168.0.11 255.255.255.255 - no changes.Have I got a config wrong/how do I resolve ? Or is this something the Hub is blocking ? Are there any workarounds. I guess I could probably access with cloudflare tunnelling but this seems overkill unless its the only wayTIA !

Yeah I think this is it. Now I can see the AX50 connection speed is as good as Hub+Black Pod its a possibility.Quite liked having 7 RJ45 ports though lol so if needs be I have a little switch I can pop in - just another box/another power supply *sigh*Great answer though, thanks

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carl_pearce
Superstar
2 months ago
You won't have access to devices between routers when using the WAN port.
- Tudor
  Very Insightful Person
  2 months ago
  "You won't have access to devices between routers when using the WAN port."
  This is correct. You are thinking that the VM hub is a ‘real’ router, but it’s not, just a cut down device to VM specs.
legacy1
Alessandro Volta
2 months ago
Add another NIC to the samba server and connect it to the TPLink AX50 LAN
- derek765
  Dialled in
  2 months ago
  The samba server & one other are pis which I'd have preferred to be cabled in, but I don't really "need" to be cabled in, so I could just wirelessly connect to the AX50. Prefer your other answer tbh :)
Client62
Alessandro Volta
2 months ago
The black Pod may be free, but is totally inflexible and has already caused you to create a configuration that is very suboptimal. Double NAT only has downsides.
Perhaps retire the black Pod and use Hub 5 in Modem mode + the AX50 as the router,
add an Wi-Fi AP if more wireless coverage is needed or a retail Wi-Fi repeater that can be configured to the IP range of your preference.
- derek765
  Dialled in
  2 months ago
  Yeah I think this is it. Now I can see the AX50 connection speed is as good as Hub+Black Pod its a possibility.
  Quite liked having 7 RJ45 ports though lol so if needs be I have a little switch I can pop in - just another box/another power supply *sigh*
  Great answer though, thanks
- derek765
  Dialled in
  2 months ago
  Started to look into modem mode - although threads are 6 months go, experience seems to be that modem mode (especially from the 2.5Gb port) doesn't work ?
  
  I also checked out these very useful links: The three types of Virgin Media Broadband - FTTP Pro and Better Internet Dashboard
  
  In summary - I'm on 1000Mbps - HFC. Is it possible to get Hub5 working in modem mode on the 2.5Gb port and is there a guide to this, or a workaround ?
  - legacy1
    Alessandro Volta
    2 months ago
    The hub 5 modem mode works fine for the 2.5Gb you just need a good router if your looking for a home router that is.
    TP-Link Archer BE230 Dual-Band WiFi 7 Router, 3600Mbps Lightning-Fast Speeds, 2x 2.5G WAN/LAN and 3x 1Gbps LAN Ports, USB 3.0 Port, VPN WiFi Router, HomeShield Security, Easy Setup, EasyMesh : Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
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    or a real firewall
    5.0Gbps UTM Firewall | Recommended up to 100 Users | Zyxel Store
    and get a AP
legacy1
Alessandro Volta
2 months ago
samba to show devices uses broadcast or multicast which does not cross subnets but you can do it direct to IP so if 192.168.1.3 wants to connect to 192.168.0.100 by \\192.168.0.100 it can but if you want to connect to 192.168.1.3 from 192.168.0.100 that a whole new story beccuase it will not be \\192.168.1.3 but the routers TPLink AX50 WAN like 192.168.1.2 which brings another problem because you have to NAT port forward and then if you have another drvice on 192.168.0.50 that want to connect to say 192.168.1.40 you can't because you used the same port to NAT to 192.168.1.3
now if the hub did Static routes and must be done on the hub for 192.168.1.0/24 gateway 192.168.0.2 then it be fine if the TPLink AX50 then accepts and does routeing without SNAT like IP 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.1.3 or 192.168.1.3 to 192.168.0.100 then it be a Asymmetrical Route unless the router in this case TPLink AX50 does Overwrite Direct Route when it routes to gateway 192.168.0.1.
Client62
Alessandro Volta
2 months ago
Don't get confused with an XGS-PON Hub 5x which has a 10 Gbps port and has a fibre plugged directly into the Hub but does not have modem mode supported by VM.

Modem mode surely does work on a CATV / DOCSIS Hub 5 and plenty prefer it.

Hub 5 via the 2.5Gbps port has 1 proviso ... your Router must have EEE ( Energy Efficient Ethernet ) Disabled on its WAN port.
Roger_Gooner
Alessandro Volta
2 months ago
The most straightforward option is to put the hub into modem mode and run everything off the AX50. Another option, if you want WiFi from both the hub and AX50, is to extend the network by running a LAN to LAN configuration with just the hub being the DHCP server - but I no longer recommend it as most people don't understand this.

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