Gig2 on HFC

I did, however at the end of it they will put the price up 150% yet provide me with less options than other ISPs. Virgin used to be fast now it’s just second best, and that’s if you’re just competing with OR. 

I need the faster speeds in my house. It’s a pain getting by when others have such faster options.

I think they might be loosing more than 3m users if OR can provide faster speeds than them now for BB only users. Additionally, with Sky now using Cityfibre as well as OR, looks like Sky will be the go-to provider unless VM can magically come up with 'UKs fastest broadband provider' again.

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nodrogd wrote:

2) Broadcast TV services use a huge chunk of spectrum that would be needed for symmetrical services. These are still currently used by over 3 million customers who VM might lose if they switched them off.

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You know how you can't buy TV on its own and haven't for years, you have to have a broadband service? There's a reason for that. Most of the TV channels are IPTV. The boxes in use that aren't old as the hills and should have already been retired are software convertible to all-IP. Cable companies have already gone all-IP on existing set tops. VM could leave a couple of QAMs for sport and very key channels, 16 MHz of a 1 GHz or at worst 860 MHz plant.

No-one's talking about symmetrical anyway. VM have been installing mid-split networks more than capable of 200 Mbit up since at least 2016 and all the latest wave of upgrades were mid-split. If STBs couldn't handle the return path going up to 85 MHz they'd have broken the TV service in those areas. Mid-split is easily capable of 200 Mbit upload tiers and that's all that VM need before Mustang is extensively rolled out.

The knowledge you're sharing is way out of date.

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nodrogd wrote:

1) Upgrading to 2Gb on HFC will cause a lot more contention issues. At present the coax network segments are shared by up to 500 people per fibre node.

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Like Gig1 did? Ah, no, it didn't. They added extra capacity through an OFDM downstream and on the upstream an extra SC-QAM and an OFDMA channel. Where there wasn't room they upgraded the return path. This saves them a job for Gig2. Virtually no downstream capacity issues at all, only upstreams that were creaking before Gig1 went to 100.

I guess you didn't have the time to read the replies on the other thread on this topic where another poster explained why you are mistaken.

BT are just now putting the boxes on the poles ready for service, a lot of this road will move to BT for sure when its available, its too expensive and not the fastest anymore so no reason to stay unless you are mid contract with a TV box. Out of contract too expensive better off with a sky bundle with fibre.

Like where?