I have had 360 for a short while and to be frank I don't like it for umpteen reason including no SD channels, no way of going back on last channel, no wish lists and a bonkers remote that is not usable in the dark. Can I revert back?
The simple answer is no as once you have taken the plunge to the 360 you cannot revert back to the Tivo/V6 box.
Can you please go into more detail.the problems you are having with your 360 box.
KeithLeonard wrote:The simple answer is no as once you have taken the plunge to the 360 you cannot revert back to the Tivo/V6 box.
Can you please go into more detail.the problems you are having with your 360 box.
Some of the missing features are as follows; Wishlists (where you can set the box to record programs on certain subjects or featuring certain people), undelete, series link+, series link manager, suggestions, setting of series links for programs not in the current TV guide, ethernet control, keyboard support via USB, switching between tuners with constant buffering, skip-back on fast-forward, quickplay, default recording options, cancelling individual recordings from a series link, multi-channel series links, radio channels allowing recording of radio, separation of recordings between boxes, watching recordings when internet is not available and probably a few others I've forgotten.
Also, extra boxes do not have their own hard disks or tuners (unless converted from a V6 box), so you lose storage space and recording ability and are also reliant on the main box being on to watch and set recordings and also on having a decent wi-fi signal (or ethernet cable) between the two boxes when watching recordings.
my remote control keeps freezing and I can’t get back on my Netflix. I really do not like the new app and wished I could go back to the old TV as I loved it. Keeps coming up with issues and won’t let me play anything on Netflix
arrgee1991 wrote:I have had 360 for a short while and to be frank I don't like it for umpteen reason including no SD channels, no way of going back on last channel, no wish lists and a bonkers remote that is not usable in the dark. Can I revert back?
If you migrated voluntarily, then no. Bear in mind that a lot of SD channels are being removed now, so even if you still had TiVO you would lose most them eventually (Sky News SD disappeared recently as Sky stopped broadcasting it in SD). The use of MPEG4 transmission means you do not lose as much recording space with HD than you used to. More & more services are now V360/Stream exclusive & it’s only going to get worse.
@nodgrod
If you migrated voluntarily, then no. Bear in mind that a lot of SD channels are being removed now, so even if you still had TiVO you would lose most them eventually (Sky News SD disappeared recently as Sky stopped broadcasting it in SD). The use of MPEG4 transmission means you do not lose as much recording space with HD than you used to. More & more services are now V360/Stream exclusive & it’s only going to get worse.
I migrated because of the email telling me I needed to upgrade to get Sky Sports +. If it is going to get worse, I really want to revert to TiVo.
arrgee1991 wrote:@nodgrod
If you migrated voluntarily, then no. Bear in mind that a lot of SD channels are being removed now, so even if you still had TiVO you would lose most them eventually (Sky News SD disappeared recently as Sky stopped broadcasting it in SD). The use of MPEG4 transmission means you do not lose as much recording space with HD than you used to. More & more services are now V360/Stream exclusive & it’s only going to get worse.
I migrated because of the email telling me I needed to upgrade to get Sky Sports +. If it is going to get worse, I really want to revert to TiVo.
Hi again arrgee1991
I think you've misread what nodgrod was saying.
He was indicating that that the tivo based boxes won't be seen as a priority going forward and won't be receiving all of the new apps and services that are being introduced to the Horizon platform (TV360 and Stream boxes)
The V6 boxes won't have Sky Sports+ available for the start of the new football season, in fact there isn't a timeline for it's implementation on the V6, but Sky and VM are investigating feasibility on that box. It might take a lot of testing and coding. It will never become available on the TiVo (heck the tivo even has problems playing iPlayer).
The tivo based boxes will eventually be phased out, as I understand it VM's owners Liberty Global want everyone on the horizon platform. VM are currently in the process of offering free migrations to Virgin TV 360
If you press the TV button to the right of the Home button it takes you back to the last channel. Or you can hold down the mic button and say “last channel”
The thing I really don't like is that when you've been watching a recording and go back to live TV, you can't rewind it. A thing that I miss massively. I also think it's only a matter of time before I delete something accidentally (because it stays on the trash can image on the next recording after deleting one) and cannot retrieve them as before.
The big advantage the 360 has over the V6 is the voice control, so learn how to use it.
Roger_Gooner wrote:The big advantage the 360 has over the V6 is the voice control, so learn how to use it.
I'd argue that's a difference, rather than necessarily an advantage. As with all things TV360, whether one platform is better than the other comes down to individual usage.
I find the one key-press between live TV and recordings, a massive advantage of TiVo/V6. Others will argue that voice-control is a reasonable substitute.
The exact amount varies between channels, but the V6/360 HDD can hold between 300-400hours of HD recordings these days.
It's not an advantage
Nothing is being removed from V6 that is currently available, but new services won't be added.
The exception being the Sky Sports HD multiscreen, which is being developed for V6 but with no timescale.
I'll be amazed if a Sky Sports+ app appears on the V6. Why would Sky spend money on this when a simple migration to the 360 can be done.
@Roger_Gooner. The email pretty much says if you want Sky Sports +, you have to upgrade to 360.
Apologies for referring to TiVo in other posts as I mean V6. I would happily go back to V6 but it seems like it is not possible. I would even live without Sky Sports +.
arrgee1991 wrote:@Roger_Gooner. The email pretty much says if you want Sky Sports +, you have to upgrade to 360.
Apologies for referring to TiVo in other posts as I mean V6. I would happily go back to V6 but it seems like it is not possible. I would even live without Sky Sports +.
It's not just the V6, but the broadcast boxes in general that have a finite lifespan. The Horizon platform drives V360 & Stream boxes. Stream is a totally IP product, & is the only product that will run on the new XGS-PON network that will eventually replace all VMs existing connections. VM has quoted 2028 as a target date of the final move away from traditional broadcast cable services, although most of us think this as a little ambitious.
As there was no contract change the 14-day cooling off period does not apply, so you are stuck with the 360.
VM have openly & publicly said that the Sky Sports multiscreen is coming to V6
Nowhere can I find any documented details of how Sky Sports+ differs from this.
There's plenty of marketing buzz, but that's light on detail. As with most marketing.
SD channels is not just a 360 issue - they are being withdrawn on Sky too.
arrgee1991 wrote:I have had 360 for a short while and to be frank I don't like it for umpteen reason including no SD channels, no way of going back on last channel, no wish lists and a bonkers remote that is not usable in the dark. Can I revert back?
Virgin still charge extra for Sky Sports HD. Will this charge be removed?
arrgee1991 wrote:Virgin still charge extra for Sky Sports HD. Will this charge be removed?
The Sky imposed HD cash cow continues for the time being. There may be a change when the Sky Sports + revamp happens, but don't count on it.
The Sky Sports HD charge still stands for now, until it changes. TV360 vs V6 has no bearing on that, both boxes can carry the SD variants for customers not paying the HD charge.
