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heather22's avatar
heather22
On our wavelength
5 days ago

Transferring BT number to existing Virgin VOIP landline

Hello

I currently have a BT landline (which I needed to keep as it was linked to an alarm system) that I have had for many years and is the number I use. I also have a Virgin landline (that was a compulsory part of the package) and which has already been switched to digital but which I never use.

My broadband and TV are with Virgin and I don't want to change that. I don't have BT broadband.

When the BT digital switchover happens I would like to be able to keep my BT number. Will Virgin be able to port that number on to my existing Virgin landline or is that only possible when setting up a new landline?

I may have the option of keeping a 'home phone' version of the BT line (and continue paying of course) even though I will no longer need it for the alarm system (separate issue!!) but won't know if I am eligible for this until I get the switchover letter by which time, as I understand it, a 'job' will have been raised on the BT line which will prevent the number being portable.

Can anyone advise? I realise that worst case is I start using the Virgin landline and just have to tell everyone I have a new number, which is a lot of people/companies but is not the end of the world. But I would like to keep the old number if I can.

Thank you.

13 Replies

  • Roger_Gooner's avatar
    Roger_Gooner
    Alessandro Volta

    I forgot to say that, unlike BT's Smart hub 2, VM's hub requires an adapter to enable you to connect your analogue handset. VM should send one to you but, if VM is tardy about it, you can get one on eBay and several other retailers (look for an RJ11 to BT adapter). It looks like this. You plug your phone line into it and the other connector goes into the hub's TEL 1 port.

  • Roger_Gooner's avatar
    Roger_Gooner
    Alessandro Volta

    I'm sorry to say that you have not been advised well. VM does of course have a VoIP system - how else could it work without phone lines - and there is no reason to port it to some VoIP provider.

    As for porting: there are sometimes problems but it's over the top to say it's unsafe to port to VM. Porting is regulated by OFCOM and providers are required to resolve problems. And if it's unsafe to port to VM, then it's unsafe to port to anyone. My advice is to proceed by following these procedures.

    1. Do not cancel your BT line. This is the biggest reason why ports fail. 
    Cancelling BT yourself kills the number before VM can grab it.

    2. Provide BT account holder name, address, and number exactly as on BT’s bill as even small mismatches can cause rejections.

    3. Make sure VM raises a “Gaining Provider Led” port request. And don't breathe a word about this to BT, let VM handle everything.

    4. Keep BT active until the port completes (usually 1–10 days.)

    5. Once the number ports BT will close automatically - so you won't have to cancel manually.

  • goslow's avatar
    goslow
    Alessandro Volta

    Bit hard to understand the detail of your last post.

    If you have a phone-line-only service with BT, you should be able to port that number to VM assuming the BT line is currently active. VM requests BT to port the number. BT releases the number to VM's control. Your existing VM number disappears from your VM landline and is automatically replaced by the BT number. Porting the number should close down the BT phone line.

    You don't say what sort of alarm system you are using (security, personal, medical etc.) but, if you intend to use that connected to a VM landline via the VM hub, this would not work if the VM hub loses power (e.g. a power cut). Any alarm service would be best configured to work via mobile/SIM or have a mobile/SIM backup in case the VM landline goes down.

    Suggest you reply to the PM from Sabrina_B to discuss what VM can do for you in moving the number to VM

    • heather22's avatar
      heather22
      On our wavelength

      Thank you. The number porting you describe is exactly what I am hoping for.

      The alarm will not be a problem as it is being upgraded to a radio network and will no longer be linked to the BT line or any VM service.

      I also found the BT conversation hard to understand, as how Openreach could affect my VM broadband service is beyond me, but that is what I was told.

      I have replied to the PM and am awaiting a response.

  • heather22's avatar
    heather22
    On our wavelength

    I have just had a very disturbing phone call with BT, regarding the Home Phone option that I have now been offered, that if I do take this option while maintaining Virgin Broadband, then Openreach has been known to 'snatch' the virgin broadband away and customers have lost their Virgin broadband without notice (which presumably would then mean losing all Virgin email addresses as well. No idea if that would impact TV). 

    I find it hard to believe that this could happen, but it is very concerning.

    I am so fed up with this all and it is far too complicated for me to understand when everyone is saying different things. Off for a lie down.

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta

    We ported 3 BT landlines to Sipgate a VoIP provider. ( others offer a similar service )

    The 2 line and numbers for our building alarm and home phone are 
    configured on a Cisco ATA.   The 3rd on a SIP Phone.

    My #1 concern was to avoid any of the 3 telephone numbers becoming part of an ISP bundle where control is instantly lost.   Plus a genuine VoIP service is not dependent on a given ISP or  building. I can make / take a VoIP call in Colchester or Bordeaux with equal ease.

  • Hi heather22 👋.

    Thanks for reaching out to us, sorry to hear of the confusion you are facing with your landline number, so that we can look into this and advise accordingly we would need to bring you in for a private message. Please look out for the envelope on the top right of your web browser or if you are using a mobile device, it will be located under your profile icon.

     

    Thanks.

     

    Sabrina

    • heather22's avatar
      heather22
      On our wavelength

      Ok. I don't want to action anything yet, as I still need to sort out the alarm issues. I just wanted to know if it was possible to port the BT number onto the existing Virgin line.

      Thanks

  • Adduxi's avatar
    Adduxi
    Very Insightful Person

    AFAIK VM is not a proper VOIP at this time.  It still uses an exchange at the back end.   

    For ease, just port your BT number to a VOIP supplier.  Once done, you can use this number with any ISP, and any mobile provider.  Once the port is done, your BT landline will cease to work. 

    If you get something like a Grandstream HT812 ATA, you can keep your existing wiring and phones.  Some VOIP suppliers can also supply pre configured Base stations and phones if required.

    • heather22's avatar
      heather22
      On our wavelength

      Thank you for your reply. I don't really understand all the ins and outs of VOIP etc so may be using the wrong terminology. I don't really want to add another supplier if I can help it.

      My understanding is that the Virgin landline will continue to work after the 'big switchover' is complete (I may be wrong about this as I am about many things!) so I wanted to know whether there would be an option to port the BT number to it.

      • jpeg1's avatar
        jpeg1
        Alessandro Volta

        I urge you most strongly to follow @Adduxi's advice. Do not risk transferring your landline number to VM. Others have done this, some successfully and some with the loss of their number.  If it's not done correctly first time with the cooperation of both parties, it will be lost permanently. As others have found to their distress and reported on here, the number will not stay safely somewhere to be retrieved later. It will be gone.