Virgin have nearly finished rolling out their XGS-PON FTTP product in my area, I was speaking to one of their guys that confirmed what they were rolling out and he said it is capable of 10Gbps symmetric.
I know you won't be able to get 10Gbps from the get go, but will they be offering 1Gbps symmetric packages or still the same bollocks and cap the upload to 50-100Mbps?
Also any one know the prices of their new service?
Thanks.
I can see a potential new tier for it but VM would probably have to charge a visible premium for it to avoid questions from customers on older infrastructure, and I dont think it would be as high as 2.5 and deffo not 10gbit. Maybe something like a 2000/1000 as a starting point with at least a £20 month premium over gig1 (no deals either to force that price to stay up there).
Aside from that there is an advertising conflict, current cable is considered fibre broadband, so should be capable of the same speeds right?
there's different technologies in fibre though, even OR fibre network isn't XGSPON like Virgin's new network. they may try to charge a premium but with altnets offering 1:1 at lower prices, they have to compete with prices, or face the fact people will move to the better deals.
end of the day it all boils down to price, if it's £50 for 1000/100 at Virgin or £50 somewhere else for 1000/1000, I know where I'm sending my £50.
the whole new network should be on its own tariffs not linked to HFC at all.
We know its different as we are tech geeks. but the advertising doesnt differentiate which I think is the point ipfreely was making. So you will have some of VM customers asking why their fibre broadband cant do these shiny new speeds the same as this other fibre broadband.
but this is the same thing as with OR and fiber areas and non fiber areas, I'd understand if it was down the same street, but we're talking entire towns full setup and running xgspon. no different than when 1gig first come around, not ever one got it.
How would you know when VM have updated your street cable with XGS-PON? VM were laying fibre (2 weeks ago) on a nearby main road to my house which is on the legacy DOCSIS cable......
VM is installing new cabinets next to existing cabinets for the fibre runs. However there is also a lot of work to be done upstream before you will be offered an XGS-PON installation.
I read on bt website they are bringing out 1gb download and 220mb upload speed, theres many other companies thats going fttp its not just vm, if vm think that customers will pay through the nose for fttp super broadband they best think again, they would have to go with same prices or cheaper then there counterparts who are all involved with fttp super broadband or they will find many of there customers jumping ship
I have two things to say.
1. It's a competitive broadband market, and everyone is aware of what the competitors are doing.
2. There are bigger things to consider, e.g. Pay TV is important and VM is superior to BT TV, and most people care more about the TV channels they can get than faster broadband speeds that they don't make use of.
I’m quite content with my Humax Freeview recorder. I also use Streaming services, BUT the big difference is, being monthly contracts as such, I stop and start them when there is something I want to watch. Also at times I get offers like £2 for two months. I would never go back to VM for TV.
As for 10 GB internet, even XGS-PON will have a maximum shared limit. That 10GB might be shared across many users.
2000/200 will be available eventually 😉
Forum TeamHey Martyn, thank you for reaching out and we are always expanding and investing into our network, any news can be found here Cheers
I’m currently on it, just isn’t publicly available yet.
2000/200 same as the extended trial here in some areas of UK and the top package you can get in Ireland (not sure if upload is 200 there as I would need go and refresh my memory).
Does anybody know if the 10GBe port on the 5x is multi-gig so capable of negotiating down to 2.5Gbe?
I'm getting VM installed on the 19th and contemplating putting my NAS directly into the 10Gbe port and then my switch into one of the standard gigabit ports. My current NAS ports are 2.5Gbe so hoping the port on the 5x is multi-gig.
On the admin panel everything says connected at 1000 -.- even stuff in 10gb/2.5gb switches
highly recommend this QNAP QSW-2104-2T (well worth it imo)
@gtunney
I have the 10Gb port (5x) connected to a 2.5Gb port on my iMac (thunderbolt adapter) and it works fine. MacOS reports the link is 2.5Gb. The router UI reports the linkspeed as 0 on that port (1000 on all the other ports).
That is good news thanks. I’ll plum the NAS into the 2.5GbE port and then my gigabit switch into the rest.
