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mdeadman
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4 months ago
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Unnecessary Delays with installation

I have been trying to get VM Broadband installed since my original installation date of 21st December.

After numerous calls to the preinstallation team and being told many different stories I had a VM engineer turn up to review the site.  He established that my installation was 'easy'.  It just needs a team to turn up with a hydraulic lifter to lift the BT lid and prepull the cable through to my Tee.

The following day contractors turned up 'without' a hydraulic lifter and as keen as they were to do the work they couldn't without this tool.  So, nothing happened!

Since then, more calls with the preinstallation team with different stories telling me I am incorrect in what I have been told.  They tell me it needs council approval, but I have been told in both visits so far, it doesn't.  So, they are setting up more appointments, but nobody is turning up!

In my last call last week, I was told they were definitely coming that day and that a technician would call me to let me know what time.  Nobody turned up.  I was also told that he would refer my case to the escalations team so that I could specify when I want full installation to take place.  I suggested 3rd February.  I have yet to hear from anybody about this.

My account today show that I have 1 appointment today between 8am and 6pm and 1 appointment tomorrow between 8am and 6pm.  But this has just been rolled over from the 2 appointments that were scheduled for yesterday.

Overall, it is not looking very promising. 

How do I get somebody to send out a team, with a hydraulic lifter so we can move forwards?

  • I agree they have got off very cheaply indeed!  They have worn me down so much now.  I have just run out of energy now to go to the ombudsman and to be honest I just don't have the time or the headspace!  I am at that stage where I just move on!

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  • -tony-'s avatar
    -tony-
    Alessandro Volta

    i have no idea if the tale about the hydraulic lifter is true or not - not your telling of it but the fact one might be needed - it sounds as though it might be the case as its come from people on the ground rather than the clowns who have told you the rest of it

    the job will have been put out to sub contractors - thats who you have seen on site - once they have the job there is bo backwards communication to VM - so every time you ring CS they see its an open job and make up something on the spot to pacify you - they are good a picking up crumbs from what you tell them and using that as a basis for the lies they tell you

    council permissions is just one they spout with no knowledge

    promises of call backs are no more than lies to get rid of you - it will be done tomorrow is another lie - they have no idea but their screen says that so they repeat it

    what can you do - to move it forward - NOTHING - its in the hands of the sub contractors and they will get round to it as and when

    but keep records for the compensation you are due - about £6 a day from the 1st install date you were given - dont cancel the install even if you go elsewhere - that will just cancel the install so you would be back to square 1 if yo came back in the future - just let them sort it - cancel in the 1st 14 days foc and claim your compensation 

  • -tony-'s avatar
    -tony-
    Alessandro Volta

    hmmm - i answered this in detail or i thought i did - maybe its deleted maybe i did not press the reply button

    what can you do - NOTHING - CS dont have a clue and will tell you what they want - read lies - its with a sub contractor who will get round to it as and when or not at all - further ringing will get you CS who will just add to the lies

    all you can do is wait

  • mdeadman's avatar
    mdeadman
    On our wavelength

    Thank you.  That is very much what I am coming to realise.

    It seems that there is no point even wasting my time phoning them.  

    I am definitely keeping notes of what is happening.  I had heard how bad CS is, but this is just worse than I could ever imagine.  But I have no other option for Fibre in my area and so I just need to be patient and let them give me some compensation.

    You would have thought that they would save money by having more effective CS rather than paying compensation for unnecessary delays.

     

    • Steven_L's avatar
      Steven_L
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      Hello mdeadman,

      Welcome to the Community and thanks for taking the time to post here on the forums. I’m sorry to hear of the issues that you’re having with getting your services installed. 

      This is far from the experience any of customers should be going through. We can help to get this looked into further from here and raise a complaint with our installation. Have you been advised anything further since you last posted? If not and you'd like further help, please respond to my private message and we can look into this for you.

      Kind Regards,

      Steven_L

       

      • mdeadman's avatar
        mdeadman
        On our wavelength

        Hi Steven

        I have tried replying to your last PM but it is rejecting my reply stating 'maximum number of messages allowed - please try later'

  • mdeadman's avatar
    mdeadman
    On our wavelength

    Good morning Steven

    Unfortunately I have heard nothing more since I posted and on viewing the portal today I see that there are 2 appointments scheduled for today that have been rolled forward from last week.

    I have replied to your PM.

  • mdeadman's avatar
    mdeadman
    On our wavelength

    Good news

    A Virgin Engineer arrived to do YET another site survey

    Bad New

    He didn't have a hydraulic lifter with him.

    No work done - He is going to email his manager - again!  

    Something tells me that preinstallations organised a site survey to make me feel something is happening.

    How difficult is it to get somebody to come out with a hydraulic lifter and actually prepull the cable ready for installation?

  • Winelist's avatar
    Winelist
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    I have to say the I’m not 100% that a ‘hydraulic lifter’ is actually a thing, well at least not in this context.

    Tell me when the engineer (and I’ll use the term loosely) turned up today, did you first mention said hydraulic lifter or did they? Could it be that they didn’t fancy doing the job and latched onto something you said as an excuse?

    • mdeadman's avatar
      mdeadman
      On our wavelength

      On the first occasion - Engineer site visit - He mentioned hydraulic lifter as it is a very large lid to raise.

      When the contractors turned up, they were about to start to work and they mentioned hydraulic lifter.

      On the most recent occasion - site visit we mentioned hydraulic lift as that seemed now to be a thing .  I was also quoted this by preinstallations when I disputed that council approval was required and they looked further in their notes and found the comments from the site visit!

      So I think it is a thing - just nobody has one!

  • mdeadman's avatar
    mdeadman
    On our wavelength

    Well we are now nearly 2 months since my original install date of 21st December and can honestly say there has been no progress.

    The last engineer who turned up nearly 3 weeks ago was going to speak to his area manager and give me call.  That never happened!!  I guess they are all still trying to find a hydraulic lifter so that they can complete my install.

    Really, can an organisation exist like this and be paying compensation for excessive delays?  

    I keep thinking that I should call the preinstall team again - but to be honest I cannot be bothered as I know that I will be told any of a number of stories which dont relate to the real situation at all and I will be just wasting my time as nothing will be done!

    I wonder how long they can drag this???

    • Carley_S's avatar
      Carley_S
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      Hi mdeadman 

      Really sorry to hear that your installation has still not been completed. 

      I can see that you already have an open private message with one of my colleagues. Should you need any further assistance or support on this, please do reach back out on your already open private message thread, and they'll help in any way we can on our side. 

      • mdeadman's avatar
        mdeadman
        On our wavelength

        Its now my 2 month anniversary waiting for Full Fibre Installation and still I have not heard from an area manager, site engineers promising to call, no visits with a hydraulic lifter and nothing from the complaints team.

        To add to this my contract and orders and appointments have disappeared from my account to be replaced with

        something's gone wrong

        We're sorry this isn't the page you wanted.

        It's something at our end, and we?re working as fast as we can to fix it.

        If you try again later everything will be sorted. Sorry for the inconvenience.

        Is this just my account or is it a global issue??

        I am sure that another supplier for full fibre could have dealt with this more quickly, as even though my road had cable installation only last year it seems to be very difficult to actually get installed!

        I guess I have no option but to carry on waiting as calls to the Preinstallation team are a waste of time getting promises that are not true!

  • jpeg1's avatar
    jpeg1
    Alessandro Volta

    It might not be a bad idea to start looking for alternative suppliers, just in case VM decides this installation is too much trouble.

    But good luck anyway and keep those records going for the compensation. 

    • mdeadman's avatar
      mdeadman
      On our wavelength

      Fortunately I am still with another provider but VM is the only supplier providing full fibre , in theory, to my road.

      I had heard that the service could be bad, but this is really quite unreal.  I was 'promised' again yesterday by preinstallations that the prepull would be done yesterday and that they would have the correct equipment.  But of course, nobody turned up.  

      In most other organisations you would be given regular updates to manage customer expectations and retain customers.  It appears that VM approach is for customer to chase and be promised the earth with ZERO results!

      With the cost of the compensation building they could probably buy a hydraulic lifter from Amazon if they dont have one!!  I just dont understand it!!!

      • jpeg1's avatar
        jpeg1
        Alessandro Volta

        This is the classic case of disconnect between VM and their subcontractor doing the street work.  They just don't talk to each other.

        Incidentally, you mentioned you are getting full fibre.  Does your contract say 'full fibre', or 'fibre broadband' ?    If they are connecting you to the existing underground cables, you may well be getting the latter which is only fibre to the street cabinet and coaxial cable from the cabinet to your house.

  • mdeadman's avatar
    mdeadman
    On our wavelength

    Yesterday was my 2 month anniversary of waiting for installation.  Of course, engineers or area managers have not visited or contacted and I am still waiting to hear from the complaints team.

    Perhaps I am now thinking conspiracy theories.  I now cannot access my contract or orders and appointments on the online portal.  Is this a global problem or has something been done to my account so I cannot view it anymore?

    It says

    "something's gone wrong

    We're sorry this isn't the page you wanted.

    It's something at our end, and we?re working as fast as we can to fix it.

    If you try again later everything will be sorted. Sorry for the inconvenience. "

    It amazes me that Virgin Media even provide a community for its potential customers and existing customers to vent their frustration and tell the world about the terrible customer service.  Many organisations would try to find the solution quickly rather than allow the problems to escalate!!

    If I had an alternative choice for full fibre broadband I would be going to that supplier, but as Virgin is the only company that has cabled my road I have no choice!

  • mdeadman's avatar
    mdeadman
    On our wavelength

    I had a phone call Tuesday evening promising me an installation appointment on 3rd March.  I have just had an email delaying the appointment to 20th March - No reason except for the usual baloney.  Bearing in mind they havent done the prepull yet because they need a hydraulic lift, my guess is that they have not got their act together to get this done first!  Unbelievable!!

    • Tom_W1's avatar
      Tom_W1
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      Hi mdeadman thanks for your reply here.

      Sorry that this is still ongoing for you, we see that our colleague Paul is trying to go through account security with you so if you do need us to investigate further, please continue to send him a DM so we can assist further.

      Many thanks

      • mdeadman's avatar
        mdeadman
        On our wavelength

        Surprise Surprise - Virgin Media has decided due to Health and Safety Issues relating to the requirement of a hydraulic lift not to install broadband at our property. 

        Its a shame that it has taken hours of telephone conversations with the Preinstallation department and various supervisors amounting to 4 complaints to actually come to this conclusion.  They then have the audacity to send me an email telling me that 'I' have cancelled installation.

        I can honestly say that I have never experienced such terrible customer service from any organisation.  I have never received any callbacks from any departments that I have been promised.  I have been told lots of stories that do not appear to be true.

        Well goodbye Virgin.  Please don't expect me to recommend you to anybody!

        I am not following up with Ombudsman even though the complaint is now greater than 8 weeks old because its not worth the hassle - I want to be away from this terrible organisation.  But thank you for agreeing to a goodwill gesture payment of £150 paid by cheque which in no way really compensates for the poor experience.

        I wish good luck to anybody hoping for a successful installation with Virgin Media.  I guess sometimes it happens!