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Yerkes's avatar
Yerkes
Joining in
2 years ago

How to cancel installation

I signed up as a new customer but the installation has been postponed twice, and I can't afford the delay nor not knowing when the service will actually be installed. So I want to cancel the installation and am within the 14 day cooling-off period. As the service hasn't yet started I've been informed by customer services (via a phone call) that the contract can't actually be cancelled - this seems odd as the contract states that I can cancel within 14 days of the receipt of the contract.

Leaving that aside, they've put me through three times to their installation cancellation team. First time the call was dropped by the team. Second time the agent said she couldn't hear me - I suspect she had muted her speaker as I had been chatting with the previous agent 20 seconds earlier. Third time I got put through to an internal payments team. 

I'm now trying to get through on the phone for the fourth time, and have also started an online chat. In both I'm in an interminable queue.

So I'm in this Hotel California situation - apparently checked out, but apparently never able to leave. Has the contract really been cancelled? And what do I do about the installation?

  • The 14 days starts from when the service is activated, so just let them continue to fail to install. If your confirmation email said the services would go live by a certain date then you are also entitled to compensation for every day beyond that date, as well as extra money for appointments where an engineer didn't show up, or they cancelled with less than 24 hours notice.

    Some people have funded their entire contract period with another provider with the compensation that VM had to pay them for their lack of competence.

    So my advice would be to let it get installed so all the physical work is complete, all the permits, the digging etc. is done, and then cancel during the cooling off period.

  • jpeg1's avatar
    jpeg1
    Alessandro Volta

    Yes, that's right. 

    If you can't wait any longer, go with another supplier and let VM install when they finally get round it. Then cancel, which you can do by following the instructions provided. The compensation should be automatic, but if you don't get it come back here for advice.

    If you decide to try VM again in the future, it will be much easier because they will have everything ready. 

  • Hi there Yerkes 

    Thank you so much for your post and welcome to the community forums, it's great to have you here.

    I am so sorry that you have faced this issue with your installation. Can I ask if you have spoken to the teams since your last post or are you still in need of assistance.

  • Thanks all for your advice - appreciate all the useful tips. I decided that I can't manage all the uncertainty and potential hassle of having to go through compensation claims, etc. and it's just much easier to revert to my previous ISP. Pity, but at least I've never had cause to complain about their customer service.

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      Matthew_ML
      Forum Team

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  • Hi Yerkes, Can I ask did you finally get this resolved with VM. Did you get out of your pre-contract or did you wait until they’d installed your connection before then cancelling and had you previously gone with someone else before waiting for confirmation from VM? I ask because I signed up with them on 3/6 after getting an email on 1st June saying `were all moved into your street Steve`. That has turned out to be a lie. They were due to put my equipment in between 8am -- 1pm on 17/6 but at 10.31am that morning I received an email saying there was a delay and my new installation date was 25/7. I have now written 3 letters to their CEO regarding what they’re putting me through and after the 2nd of these a man from their Executive office rang me, but didn’t solve the problem. He then sent an email saying my problem was resolved but the response wasn’t even in plain English. I then waited a few days and queried this email and this man rang again saying he would look into my delay and "give me 24 hours m8 and I’ll look into this and come back to you". That was perhaps 10 days ago and I’m still waiting. Then less than 24 hours before the 2nd installation date of 25/7, they again called it off and are now expecting me to wait until 2/9 for the 3rd attempt. On the advice of Trading Standards the 3rd letter sent recorded post to their CEO said they were in Breach of Contract and gave 7 days for them to respond. They’ve ignored that deadline! Trading Standards are now urging me to send a recorded delivery letter saying `Letter before Court Action`, I have to give 14 days for them to respond, but this is all taking time and then if this has to go to the Ombudsman I have to wait 8 weeks before writing to them. My issue is I am losing my BT connection on 5/8, i.e. tomorrow, but requests to them to keep my contract rolling on have fallen on deaf ears. My biggest issue is I’m registered disabled and need my internet connection to get emails and appointment letters from 3 hospitals that I am under, I also have a diabetic sensor on my arm that sends my sugar readings on to one of those hospitals for the diabetic nurses to monitor and intervene if they see things going wrong. I need my internet. I was intrigued to read your post and thread and other people talking about the 3 ways you can get out of the contract, so I just wondered how you had got on in the end. Kind regards. Steve

    • Gareth_L's avatar
      Gareth_L
      Forum Team

      Hello gue3

      Thanks for your post, we're sorry to hear about the issues with your installation being delayed.

      From what we can gather the delay sounds like a construction issue and looks like we’ll need to do some additional work to the cabling in your street before we can get your services up and running. In order to proceed with this work we may need to speak to your local authority or utility companies to get the necessary permissions, which in turn will be out of our hands until permission is granted.

      We can also see you have an open complaint with our CEO team who will be doing all they can to help.

      Gareth_L

      • gue3's avatar
        gue3
        Tuning in

        Hi Gareth_L,

        Thank you so much for taking the time to answer me, I appreciate anyone who can help me on this.

        Sorry for the length of this, it’s the abridged version of what your company have put me through since 1st June. In response I would say this to you, why then would you send people like me an email on 1st June saying `Were all moved in Steve, Our Lightning-fast broadband is now available on your street`, when it actually wasn’t then, and still isn’t to this day?

        Why then do your salesmen sit in peoples houses just telling lies to get people to sign up, surely this is against all sorts of Consumer regulations and law? The guy who signed me up on 3/6 gave me 3 dates, “when we can fit your installation, which one suits you best”. I chose the 17th June and the salesman saw me write this date in my desk diary, He did not say that this was in any way a `provisional installation date` and that you may fit my installation then or on any day to suit yourselves going into the future, he didn’t tell me that I’d signed up to a `we’ll fit it when we feel like and just keep changing dates at will` contract! Neither did the salesman point out that you were signing me up to an 18 month contract at £25.99 per month BUT and this is a big BUT, that at month 19, the price rises by a massive 130% to £60 per month!!!!. This salesman started the VM lies rolling that day he signed me up, but they were to continue to the day I am writing this. A Black day indeed! Then there’s everything you put people through in trying to get the installation made. You have badly affected my actual health and mental health with what you’ve put me through for the last two months since June 1st. During this period I have now spoken to at least 12 Virgin Media representatives on the phone, every single one of them has lied and lied and lied to me. The story keeps changing every time you talk to someone (I’ve recorded every conversation by the way). An engineer was sent out to see me on 18th June. He didn’t knock my door, as he was supposed to, but I spotted him by accident and went after him. He then lied to me by pointing at the pavement outside number 33 (a neighbours) and said “there’s a blockage here and we need permission from BT to enter their ducting”, but hang on you’d told me on 1st June that `were ready to go in your street Steve`! Then after you failed my first installation date of 17th June, and because of the conflicting stories I was getting from you on the phone, I sent a letter to your CEO Lutz Schuler on 24th June asking for his help. He ignored my letter! All the way through this I have been taking advice from Trading Standards, so they advised I write again making it a complaint and giving 14 days to respond. I sent this by recorded post like the 1st letter and by email to the CEO as I now had his email address. I then received a call on 2/7 from a man in the Executive Office, he went through things and said “the problem was outside number 45” ( a second address given now for the problem!) and “he’d given me the information and was closing the complaint”. I received a confirmation email that wasn’t even written in the Kings English. I wrote an email back to the Executive Office asking what their email meant, and this produced another call back from the gentlemen who had called me before. In this 2nd conversation he ended by saying “give me 24 hours mate and I’ll look into what you’ve said and come back to you”. That was over two weeks ago and I’m still waiting for that call!! In between these calls with this man from the Executive Office, on 9/7 a woman rang from VM “confirming my installation date of 25/7”. Since 1st July I have in fact had 4 conversations with VM people on the phone all “confirming the installation date of 25/7 between 8am – 1pm”! In this call of 9/7 the lady I spoke to said you were waiting for permission from the local authority to gain access outside my property, (another 3rd address) ”!  Can you see the lies now, its either “BT or the Local Authority” from whom you are awaiting permission to do work, and the blockage, is either outside number 33 (if you believe the engineer who visited on 18/6) or its outside number 45, (if you believe the gentleman from your Executive Office) or its outside my address!! At 19.17pm on 24th June, less than 24 hours before the 2nd installation date, I received a text to my phone saying you couldn’t do the install and you were now pushing my installation back to a 3rd date of 2nd September. When I switched on my PC the next day I had 3 emails from you confirming this further delay and offering me £30.49 as compensation. The problem in this entire story started with your promise on 1st June that `were ready in your area` and then your salesman giving me the 17th June as my installation date, and not saying this was `provisional only`, because I then gave one months notice to BT to cancel my contract. I managed to get BT to extend this to 5th August, but on Monday 5/8 I finally lost my lifeline! If your salesman had only been honest and said this 1st installation date was “provisional only”, I would not have cancelled my contract with BT and not now been in a mess. All because you can’t be truthful!! When I say lifeline by the way, I mean exactly that. I need internet for medical reasons. I receive all my appointment letters and changes of appointment letters from 3 hospitals that I am under, one of whom operates a `1 strike and your out policy` meaning if they change an appointment now and I don’t find out about it and don’t turn up, they kick me off the clinic and to the end of the queue. Also I have a sensor on my arm that sends information over to one of these hospitals regarding my medical status so they can intervene if needed, that umbilical cord is now dead courtesy of VM. I have told your company about my medical needs but to no avail!! Trading Standards advised I write to your CEO saying that you were in Breach of Contract and giving you 7 days to complete the contract. I did that on 26th July. It was sent recorded letter that day and to the CEO`s email address and the Executive Office email address also. He and anyone else representing VM have just totally ignored this letter and emails!! On Monday 5th August I went to a personal meeting with Trading Standards to show them all the extensive paperwork I now have on this issue, and I played them extracts from all of the voice recordings I have made in talking to over 12 VM staff. They have advised me on how to proceed further. I can not believe that a company like VM can put people through all of this and just sign them up to a `sometime – never` contract and affect their health so badly. How do businesses get on signing to this `sometimes- never` installation date contract, you could put businesses out of business and lose all the employees their jobs waiting for their connection. I am now writing to my MP about all of this. Surely Virgin Media people don’t set out to do this to customers, your`e all just normal people like us. We sign a contract and agree a price for you to provide a service and you provide it, Simples!

  • jpeg1's avatar
    jpeg1
    Alessandro Volta

    You have to understand that

    1. The sales person is on commission and will tell you anything you want to hear to get you to sign up. 

    2. Virginmedia don't care how much inconvenience you are caused as long as you eventually become a paying customer. 

    3. These are some of the reasons why Virginmedia regularly sits at the bottom of customer service tables with Ofcom and Trustpilot. 

    • gue3's avatar
      gue3
      Tuning in

      Hi Alessandro,

      Thanks for coming back to me. Worryingly a headline popped up on my phone yesterday saying something like `WHICH rank Virgin Media as the worst brodband providor`! I didnt get chance to read that yet and need to find it via Google today. I think though after my contacts with over 12 of their staff and their Eecutive office and having written 3 letters to their CEO Mr Lutz Schuler, two of which remain unaswered to this day, all of my very sad experiance with this company only confirm that WHICH must surely be correct in their assesment. I am copying all of my letters and notes and transcript of phone calls and sending all of that off to WHICH in the next few days. But I suspect that VM dont really care what anybody says about them theyll just go blindly on offerring poor service to anyone signing up with them. BTW as Ive now lost my internet, I`m replying by having to tether my phone to my PC, but as I only have an 8gb plan Im having to use my data sparingly. Also at the same time as their salesman signed me up to VM he got me to sign up to an O2 contract for my wife, that was supposed to be 6gb data UL minutes and texts and the contract documents confirmed this plan when email to me, BUT when I log into my account it shows only 3gb of data! I have sent a complaint through to their customer services and guess what theyve just ignored me. I will be contacing my new MP over this and asking for her help. Cheers