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newapollo
Very Insightful Person
2 days ago

Tivo stops selling DVR's

A large number of people have been complaining about VM (and Sky) moving away from recordable boxes to Streaming boxes.   

It seems the 'beloved' tivo is no exception and is now going along the same route.

Info below from https://cordcuttersnews.com/tivo-stops-selling-dvrs-marking-the-end-of-an-era/

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In a seismic shift for the television industry, TiVo Corporation has quietly pulled the plug on its storied digital video recorder line, effectively ending an era that redefined how consumers interacted with broadcast content. As of early October 2025, the company’s official website has scrubbed all references to its hardware DVR products, including the once-revered TiVo Edge models designed for cable subscribers and over-the-air antenna users. Visitors searching for these devices now encounter a streamlined catalog that omits any mention of physical recording hardware, signaling a complete withdrawal from the retail DVR market.

This move culminates decades of gradual decline for TiVo’s hardware ambitions, which peaked in the early 2000s when the brand became synonymous with effortless time-shifting of television programming. Launched in 1999, TiVo’s DVRs introduced features like one-touch recording, commercial skipping, and intuitive search capabilities that made traditional TV schedules feel obsolete. At its zenith, the company boasted millions of subscribers, forcing cable providers and networks to adapt to empowered viewers who could pause live broadcasts or binge-watch at will. The TiVo Edge, introduced in 2021 as a hybrid device supporting both cable cards and streaming, represented the final evolution of this hardware legacy, blending OTA tuners with 4K support and expanded storage options. Yet, even as it garnered praise for superior interface design and reliability, sales dwindled amid the cord-cutting revolution.

The catalyst for this pivot appears rooted in broader market dynamics. Streaming services like Netflix, Hulu, and YouTube TV have eroded demand for standalone DVRs by offering cloud-based unlimited storage and on-demand libraries, often at lower costs without the need for bulky set-top boxes. Cable companies, facing their own subscriber losses, have increasingly pushed proprietary cloud DVRs that lock users into ecosystem-specific rentals, sidelining third-party options like TiVo. Regulatory changes, including the phased-out support for CableCARD technology—essential for TiVo’s cable compatibility—further squeezed the viability of consumer hardware. Analysts have long predicted this trajectory, noting that TiVo’s retail DVR shipments had plummeted by over 80 percent since 2019, as consumers opted for smart TVs with built-in apps or affordable streaming sticks from Roku and Amazon.

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11 Replies

  • Adduxi's avatar
    Adduxi
    Very Insightful Person

    I’ll pass on that one.  I’d rather manage my own subscriptions to streaming services.  At least I can start and stop them immediately as I please on a monthly basis.

  • japitts's avatar
    japitts
    Very Insightful Person

    I noticed an advert for a Freely TV today, with the "powered by TiVo" logo interestingly prominent over a mention of in-built recording storage. I didn't check specifics.

    • Roger_Gooner's avatar
      Roger_Gooner
      Alessandro Volta

      I think five TV makers use TiVo OS for their Freely-enabled TVs, I know Bush is one as I installed a Bush TV for someone last year and saw it used TiVo.

  • Roger_Gooner's avatar
    Roger_Gooner
    Alessandro Volta

    The move to IP is unstoppable: we're seeing it with VoIP (due for completion by 31 January 2027), now it's IPTV. And IPTV is going to be streaming without recording because that's what the content owners want.

    VM and Sky have their Stream boxes which are the default for new TV customers, EE TV has since October 2024 been offering Sky's Stream (really!) and TalkTalk, uniquely for Pay TV providers, has its Android TV-powered TV Hub. What EE TV is doing may seem extraordinary as BT/EE TV have the ability to dump their ageing Youview products and build their own IPTV stack, but it's a lot quicker and cheaper to license what Sky has even though there has to be a loss of control as it's Sky product.

    As some of you know VM is overbuilding its HFC network with fibre for XGS-PON, and only the Stream box is provided for TV customers over XGS-PON. This isn't a quick programme of work but it's coming and migration will be done whether you like it or not.

  • Mr_K's avatar
    Mr_K
    Knows their stuff

    The answer is here:-https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2025/09/humax-to-release-pvr-set-top-box-for-freelys-uk-broadband-tv-service

    It will means lots of business lost for Virgin and Sky. At a cost of £0 per month  with the freedom to skip through adverts, it makes VMs latest streaming box redundant. 

      • newapollo's avatar
        newapollo
        Very Insightful Person

        I bought the Manhattan T4-R 500GB for my sister last Christmas as she kept complaining about having to use catch up and apps and being unable to record programs on the Hisense 32" Freeview Play TV that she uses in the kitchen.

        Although it's a great box she doesn't record any programs.  Instead she asks me to find Emmerdale, Coronation Street, Casualty etc on the apps/On Demand and play it back for her.  She's a luddite and it was a waste of my money lol

        Oh one good thing came out of, she uses the Manhattan T4-R remote to turn the TV and Manhattan recorder on and off instead of having to use two remotes.

        Women 

         

  • Adduxi's avatar
    Adduxi
    Very Insightful Person

    I’ll be hanging onto my old Freeview recorder for as long as possible.  As for streaming, it’s a case of picking what you need and only signing up to one month at a time and cancelling when the need is finished.

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta

    We have a Sky Q and regularly use the multi channel recording facility as well as the catch up downloads.

    If forced into live only streaming of Rugby or F1 and TV channels with adverts, we would become  considerably less understanding about the cost of the monthly subscription.