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IPv6 support on Virgin media

dgcarter
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Does anyone know whether (and if so when) Virgin plan to implement IPv6 on its network?

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Anonymous
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That's a step forward at least. The IT Manager at my old work would regularly ask our VM account manager when IPv6 would be available and never got a serious response. It was very frustrating as it stalled any thought of an IPv6 transition within the company and actively hurt any attempt at migrating the companies network products to IPv6.

Just a heads up for anyone using a HE.net tunnel and Office 365. Exchange blocks sending of emails if you are using an IPv6 adress in the HE.net range. They will not whitelist any IPv6 addresses either. Support’s response - turn IPv6 off...

I now have a reason to want the VM deployment to hurry up.

TonyJr

Sunday update --- the small rising trend of the last 6 weeks seems to be continuing:

apnic_2018_09_30_Sun_vm.png


Despite the eye suggesting a fortnight ago that the rise in IPv6 counts had peaked, that proved to be just a local maximum in the growth curve, and since then the 2,099 seen on 2018-09-12 rose to a new peak of 2,166 on 2018-09-24 before dropping off a little again.

These numbers are just too small to carry much significance, I think. Others in the thread have observed that Virgin Media tends to run a month of customer trials before making a new feature public, but if so then this doesn't match what we're currently seeing, if indeed the last 6 weeks indicate a customer trial in progress. Perhaps that's not what's really happening at all.  Inferring otherwise from such small numbers might be just wishful thinking.

Morgaine.

"If it only does IPv4, it is broken." -- George Michaelson, APNIC.

Sunday update --- something new is happening!

 apnic_2018_10_14_Sun_vm.png

 

After the small rise seen in August reached an uneven plateau during the last fortnight of September, now in October the IPv6 growth rate has really shot up! In fact it's nearly in the same ballpark as the rate of IPv6 growth during August-September 2017, the first time that Virgin Media showed IPv6 activity higher than lab testing background noise rates.

Although this is a very good sign, note that a similar rate of increase to that in Q3 2017 probably means that it won't go higher than in 2017 either, because it probably involves the same bunch of testers, namely it's an internal trial. If this were an open public rollout, even in just one small region, the rate of increase would be much steeper.

The current growth rate is in the range of 100-150 extra per day, today reaching 3,176:

DATE         AS      Users        IPv6-Users  %UKv6
========== == ========== ========== =====
2018_10_07: VIRGIN 11,778,231 2,388 0.02
2018_10_08: VIRGIN 11,772,521 2,504 0.02
2018_10_09: VIRGIN 11,759,015 2,551 0.02
2018_10_10: VIRGIN 11,741,738 2,681 0.02
2018_10_11: VIRGIN 11,723,514 2,835 0.02
2018_10_12: VIRGIN 11,714,250 2,947 0.02
2018_10_13: VIRGIN 11,687,497 3,069 0.02
2018_10_14: VIRGIN 11,671,210 3,176 0.02

 

The next fortnight will be very interesting, and if the growth continues then it could reach 10,000 in November or so.

Morgaine.

"If it only does IPv4, it is broken." -- George Michaelson, APNIC.

Sunday update --- The fast rise we noted a fortnight ago continues, at a very uniform pace.

apnic_2018_10_28_Sun_vm.png


This remarkably steady rate of growth is reminiscent of the straight line that we saw throughout February and March. We attributed that linearity to rollout of network equipment, because trialist populations rarely increase linearly whereas a small team of engineers deploying equipment across the country would produce near-constant growth. There are no regular dips in the curve coinciding with weekends so it would appear that they're working non-stop, perhaps suggesting that it's a high-priority project, if this guess is correct. We'll probably never know of course, but it seems possible in the absence of a better hypothesis.

Today's count stands at 5,391 per day.

Morgaine.

"If it only does IPv4, it is broken." -- George Michaelson, APNIC.

Someone who went to a recent UK IPv6 council about a month ago told me that Virgin had hired a new manager of the IPv6 transition, which is to happen 'by the end of the year'.  How I laughed.  Apparently they lost the people who were doing the transition, so had to re-hire before they could restart.

Anyway, looks like 'end of the year' might be a thing for the start of the transition, if not the end of the transition.

 

Interesting comment, and I hope you're right, @impromptu.

I'll stick to being hopeful, just because being realistic based on VM's past record over the years is too depressing. 😞

"If it only does IPv4, it is broken." -- George Michaelson, APNIC.

Oh well, early days I suppose. This thread has only been going a mere eight and a half years!

I don't know if this is any indication of anything but my internet cut off for around two hours and when it came back online my router is pulling a link-local ipv6 address through the wan interface of fe80::201:5cff:fe82:447 and nmap puts it as Cadant routing equipment using the bgp protocol.

[2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.network.dev]/root: nmap -6 fe80::201:5cff:fe82:447
Starting Nmap 7.70 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2018-11-01 03:25 GMT
Nmap scan report for fe80::201:5cff:fe82:447
Host is up (0.0090s latency).
Not shown: 999 filtered ports
PORT    STATE SERVICE
179/tcp open  bgp
MAC Address: **:**:**:**:**:** (Cadant)

 


@MichaelL01 wrote:

I don't know if this is any indication of anything but my internet cut off for around two hours and when it came back online my router is pulling a link-local ipv6 address through the wan interface of fe80::201:5cff:fe82:447 and nmap puts it as Cadant routing equipment using the bgp protocol.

[2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.network.dev]/root: nmap -6 fe80::201:5cff:fe82:447
Starting Nmap 7.70 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2018-11-01 03:25 GMT
Nmap scan report for fe80::201:5cff:fe82:447
Host is up (0.0090s latency).
Not shown: 999 filtered ports
PORT    STATE SERVICE
179/tcp open  bgp
MAC Address: **:**:**:**:**:** (Cadant)

 



Arris Cadant make the CMTS hardware.

TonyJr