Hub 4

[Gazzle22]

When can I expect an upgrade of my "Hub 4" router to a new "Hub 5" router, I have now had the old router for more the 2 years?

[legacy1]

Not till 1Gb goes 1.5Gb

[asim18]

I wouldn't hold my breath. VM networking equipment is among some of the oldest and worst in the industry. I've had my Hub 3 almost 5 years now; and even then it was 4th hand used goods when they installed it in my house, so could be anywhere up to 10 years old I reckon.

Unfortunately all earth resources such as metals, plastics and silicon used for producing our routers is being diverted to build weapons and rocketships for billionaires. General public have to put up with old goods.

[carl_pearce]

In a word, no.

[jb66]

No plans

[jbrennand]

Just stick the "old" VM Hub into modem mode and get yourself a good quality wifi router or Mesh system which will have better spec and performance features than any Hub.

Prices for decent ones start from ~£40 and go much higher for higher quality and better featured equipment that you will own and can control forever.  Start from here......

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Next-Gen-Dual-band-AX1500-Dual-Core/dp/B0D3HT4WQV/

[Steven_L]

Hello Gazzle22,

Welcome back to the community and thanks for taking the time to post. Are you currently having any issues with your hub 4 at the moment?

Kind Regards,

Steven_L

[IPFreely]

In common with everyone else they will usually give a Hub that's okay for your tier of service. Hub 4 good for everything below Gig1. No ISP replaces your free kit with newer stuff just because. 

[IPFreely]

I'm not sure VMO2 giving folks on 125, 250, 350 Mb hardware more than capable of providing those speeds is related to that. If the general public want more capable routers with better WiFi they are able to purchase them. Whether they get better freebies than required to deliver the performance they pay for is entirely down to VMO2's willingness to provide them. Quite reasonable of them not to provide someone on one of the lower three or four tiers AX WiFi hardware running DoCSIS 3.1 with multigig port.

To get the latest Hub from EE you either have to subscribe to their top tier or pay £10 a month extra. No-one can legitimately complain if their free equipment is providing what they pay for. 

[asim18]

Free equipment??? Lol.

I don't think you know what the margins are on a docsis network and their cheap 10 year old networking equipment which has been profited on 30 times over.

Also for anyone wondering, VM hubs are not given away for free. To assume you receive anything for free from Richard Branson or his namesakes, is a delusion. I had to pay 40 for my second hand router, others have it absorbed into their 18 month contract, which is also being profited on, therefore polar opposite of "free".

When I signed up to Vodafone their router was brand new sealed, when I signed up to BT, their router was brand new sealed, when I sign up to business isps their gateways are brand new sealed. Virgin is the only ISP I've come across who uses 10+ year old equipment. 

Using 10+ year old networking equipment is ok if you're using very dumb device such as a media converter or ONT device. Using 10+ year old routers is just unheard of in the networking industry. (Maybe if you're running Cisco or juniper enterprise gear, definitely not with VM's cheap router with worse than homebrew software.)