Forum Discussion
Hi all,
Thank you for your patience whilst we continued to investigate this issue.
Our Voice engineering teams have concluded that the "no number" issue is device specific and not a global issue.
The route cause is located on the handsets’ sensitivity to power fluctuations received from the Hub.
Here is the list of handsets we tested:
(We're also aware of reports of other handsets)
- Gigaset C530A Trio Digital Cordless Answer machine
- BT8600 Advanced Call Blocker
- BT Decor 2600 v2
- Panasonic KX-TGJ424EB Digital Cordless Telephone with Nuisance Call Blocker and Answering Machine, Quad Dect
We will now look to explore the option to regulate the route cause, however, this needs to be discussed with the our equipment vendors and may take some time to come back.
As always we will continue to update you along the way.
Kind regards,
Community Moderation Team
- Redwards863 years agoDialled in
Finally VM have identified the issue! That’s only taken the best part of a year.
Wonder how long “some time” will be for the fix … - TAZMANUK3 years agoKnows their stuff
Please add bt d93x with call screening and call blocker to the list
- TKD3 years agoOn our wavelengthalso add BT8500
- Woodbutcher12343 years agoOn our wavelength
VM claim that the issue is the phones. Some of the phones, what about the rest, my phone is not on there list. Strange it's the phone's fault and not the VM system.
Come on VM come clean and admit that you system is lacking. I once again invite VM to supply me a phone to test if want to prove that it is my phone.
Woodbutcher1234
- TAZMANUK3 years agoKnows their stuff
Before I moved to the digital voice (VoIP) system 2 weeks ago this Saturday I never had ghost calls, moving over to digital voice I get the ghost calls so indeed it's their digital voice service as haven't changed the handset.
- Client623 years agoAlessandro Volta
The VM statement only indicates fixes for the Hub 5's defects (in Reliability / WiFi / DHCP / Ghost calls) are not a day closer
- Chris_Myers3 years agoSuperfast
- Virgin Media moved people from Landline to IP Telephony.
- Virgin Media moved people onto hub 5
- Since this Virgin Media initiated activity several users have experienced Ghost Calls.
- Virgin Media made lots of placating noises, were looking into it, and offered several "fixes" that proved wrong and irrelevant.
- Virgin Media Admitted it was a Firmware Issue
- Virgin Media blamed the phone providers and tried to get them to change their Firmware
- Virgin Media Blamed their Router Suppliers and tried to get them to change their firmware.
- Virgin Media now conclude that the issue is caused by "handsets’ sensitivity to power fluctuations received from the Hub"
- See the common denominator here - VIRGIN MEDIA!
- Guess what - IT IS YOUR HUB THAT IS GENERATING POWER FLUCTUATIONS - Try again children!
- you might also want to reconsider your testing regime that failed to identify this during Beta Test. I bet you only conducted "Positive Testing" (does it do what we said) and did no negative testing (can I break it) to save money.
- Clearly Systems Engineering is not the forte of Virgin Media. Screwing your customers is.
- GC10283 years agoDialled in
VM Community Moderation Team,
please add this to your database BT8619 single digital cordless
- GC10283 years agoDialled in
Sorry, that should read
BT8610 single digital cordless
- GC10283 years agoDialled in
On page 54 on this thread - Message 531 from the ModTeam
Hi all,
Thank you for your patience whilst we continued to investigate this issue.
Our Voice engineering teams have concluded that the "no number" issue is device specific and not a global issue.
The route cause is located on the handsets’ sensitivity to power fluctuations received from the Hub.
Here is the list of handsets we tested:
(We're also aware of reports of other handsets)- Gigaset C530A Trio Digital Cordless Answer machine
- BT8600 Advanced Call Blocker
- BT Decor 2600 v2
- Panasonic KX-TGJ424EB Digital Cordless Telephone with Nuisance Call Blocker and Answering Machine, Quad Dect
We will now look to explore the option to regulate the route cause, however, this needs to be discussed with the our equipment vendors and may take some time to come back.
As always we will continue to update you along the way.
Kind regards,
Community Moderation Team-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To the Community Moderation Team,
In reading the posts on here and noting the handsets people say they have, most are BT and one was Panasonic but no mention of model number although you do have one listed. You may have or not these on your list but I’m listing then for you so that anyone in your team will pass this on to the vendors.
BT Premium
BT Dec
BT 8610 Premium
BT46 Big Button
BT 6660
BT Advanced
BT8500
BT8600
BTD93X
BT2500 Trio
BT6500
BT8610 Digital
BT6600 Advanced
BT4600 Trio
- Woodbutcher12343 years agoOn our wavelength
Whatever the cause of the no number problem. It remains VMs responsibility to fix the issue.
Please do not pass the fault on to the customer, suggesting that it is their phones.
VM are in no hurry to fix this, they are still collecting our money!!!
- Matthew_ML3 years ago
Forum Team
Hey Woodbutcher1234, thank you for reaching out and I am sorry you feel like this.
We have been investigating this and you can see from our findings up to yet some phones are affected by this.
Do you have one of these phones listed above? Thanks
- TF19093 years agoDialled in
Any update on this? Still addressing the calls issue since I have moved from Sky. Every night I have to delete 10-20 missed calls so we don't miss IMPORTANT calls if the call list is full. Also we have to turn off the phone in the bedroom as occasionally it beeps at night when these ghost calls are being made. I have made elderly family members aware and they now have instructions to call my mobile in case of the call list full.
- Chris_Myers3 years agoSuperfast
Yesterday I got a decision from the ombudsman upholding my complaint. Because they only deal with individual cases I have been asked to to share the recommendations. As the ombudsman only deals with procedure, and not technical issues, I would not expect any change in solution or customer service from Virgin Media. We still have no unsolicited updates, not planned schedule to address the issue, and no wider sharing of information internally within VM. Change supplier, or change phone seems to be the only offered solutions.Although I do not recall being told of a phone system that definitely will work.
- Chris_Myers3 years agoSuperfast
Sorry finger trouble - I was told (ombudsman) NOT to share the recommendations
- Shadow81uk3 years agoTuning in
I have a bt4600 and receiving "missed call" with "no number" available and without the hanset ringing. I checked around and found a list of phones with this issue however the bt4600 was not included, just the bt8600. The issue also happened on my previous handset that was a iDect (model number) 641710130001. I just thought I'd add this bit of information. With the handset being connected to the router, is it possible for the number to be hacked into (something to do with "PBX") as I don't want to wake up one day with a undesirable bill? I'm not tech savy but it was something mentioned numerous times in Google searches. Thanks in advance 😇
- geoffcoleman3 years agoJoining in
I have just been switched over to digital and have found the same sort of problem but it says number unavailable and doesn't ring...i did presume it was some sort of call blocking of nuisance calls.?
- Ernie_C3 years agoVery Insightful Person
Having just converted, I too suffer this issue.
While the explanation seems viable, I personally doubt these ‘power fluctuations’ are the root cause.
These ‘no number’ calls, for me at least, are REGULAR, occurring every 3 hours 20 minutes.
For example, such calls were logged overnight for me at 23:45, 3:05, 6:25 and 9:45.
I await the next one at 13:05.
This would suggest to me that this is not some random fluctuation but some action your equipment is taking on a regular basis.
Please pass this on to the engineers looking into this.
Thanks…..
- Chris_Myers3 years agoSuperfast
Good luck convincing them of that or even in getting some form of reply from the technicians/managers
- Ernie_C3 years agoVery Insightful Person
Having reviewed the appearance of these ‘no number’ calls today, I am convinced these are caused by some ‘heartbeat’ function of the telephone system.
This heartbeat data is either wrong or being incorrectly interpreted by the phones that show the issue.
Uninterrupted, these happen regularly every 3 hours 20 minutes but an active call will interrupt the sequence which starts again at this same interval when the call completes.
Those whose job it is to manage this telephone system should be able to understand what is happening and suggest a fix if possible.
Related Content
- 2 years ago
- 11 months ago
- 2 years ago
- 10 months ago