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we3gees
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15 days ago
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Mis-sold TV and broadband

We were sold a broadband and TV package by a door to door salesman.

We invited the salesman in and my husband and I and the salesman sat around the kitchen table to discuss switching to Virgin Media. At no point during this meeting, did the salesman explain we were swapping to a Stream box. He made it sound as though the switch was a like for like deal with our existing Sky set up. However, this is not the main bone of contention. The salesman told us we didn't have to do anything regarding the swap, that it was all taken care of by Virgin. I specifically asked if this covered all our services, Broadband, Talk and Mobile and he said that , yes, as far as he knew it did. We signed up and it was left that Virgin would be in touch to sort out the installation.  

Following the meeting, I received a phone call form Virgin asking questions relevant to the installation and a date was set for the 7th May 2025.

At some point, unbeknown to us, Virgin came to our house and fitted a 'box'. The box had been fitted to the side of our property, which is not visible from our driveway and entrance and where the land/access belongs to our neighbour. We only discovered this when further engineers turned up out of the blue and asked where our TV was situated. They then proceeded to tell us that we had had the box installed in the wrong place!!! Following a lengthy wait during which the engineer spoke with his supervisor, the engineer informed me the initial box had been incorrectly installed and they would remove it and do the correct installation where it needed to be.

7th of May the engineer turned up and got us up and running with Broadband and TV. However, today we received the return label for our Sky equipment and it only listed the broadband. So we contacted Sky to ask about returning the Sky Q boxes, to be told that Virgin are legally unable to cancel our TV package, and they require 31 days notice to cancel the account. They further stated this is a common problem, that we had been mis-sold the package, and we needed to contact Virgin. 

We called Virgin to explain the situation and the agent assured us that all the services should have been cancelled upon switching. After putting us on hold to do some further investigation into our account, the agent came back and said, sorry, i've just learned something new, we only cancel broadband not TV. You have to cancel your TV package with Sky. Sky will have sent you an email telling you this, however, as a gesture of goodwill, we will credit your account with £30..... 

So just to confirm, we have incurred charges of £93.50 from Sky because your salesman mis-sold the package and misinformed us about the switching procedure, but according to you it is our fault because we missed an email, that we wouldn't have been expecting, sent from Sky. 

We have raised a complaint, but we won't hold our breath!

Absolutely Appalled

 

 

 

  • Hi All 👋 Just returning to this public thread to keep it updated. 

    Thanks to we3gees for PMing with me 📩. We were able to confirm the details needed, and received evidence to help us get this resolved. I'm glad to report it's now all been sorted. 

    Thanks for your patience whilst I offered support!

    Wishing you all the best. 🌞

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  • newapollo's avatar
    newapollo
    Very Insightful Person

    One Touch Switching is still in it's infancy and there are still too many pitfalls with all ISP's when using this method. Since it was introduced there have been a million switches (around 1.4% of UK broadband homes), however there have been too many failed matches when starting a switching order.

    All providers (both gaining and losing) should be aware that the One Touch Switching system only relates to landline and broadband services and even though the losing provider (Sky) should have given you this information.

    The new One Touch Switch process is only applicable to landline and broadband services and not TV or mobile services.

    Your post indicates that you specifically asked the door to door salesman "if this covered all our services, Broadband, Talk and Mobile and he said that , yes, as far as he knew it did" It seems odd that dropping Sky's TV service wasn't also mentioned. 

    There's a posting from Ofcom, dated 2nd October 2024,  regarding the One Touch Switch process. 

    /ofcom.org.uk/phones-and-broadband/switching-provider/switching-landline/ 

    One Touch Switch

    From September 2024, a new switching process for all broadband and landline services called ‘One Touch Switch’ will be used. This process will be easier, quicker and more reliable for customers.

    Under this process, you don’t need to speak to your current provider. Instead, your new provider can arrange the switch for you. You will simply need to provide them with a few details including your address and the name of your current provider.

    These details will be matched against your current provider’s records, and they will immediately send you any important information to consider in deciding whether to go ahead with the switch. This may include early termination charges or the impact of the switch on any other services you currently receive. If you decide to go ahead with the switch, the new provider will arrange this for your preferred switching date.

    Switching a bundle

    If you use a bundle of services with a provider, for example home phone and broadband, you will usually follow the process described above.

    However, you may need to notify your old provider to cancel other services you are also switching as part of a bundle - particularly if the switch involves cancelling a TV service. Your old provider will give you information on what your options are regarding these services in the switching information they send to you.

    • Richardr1's avatar
      Richardr1
      Superfast

      Sky wouldn't be able to say anything unless they were informed that their customer wanted to cancel their TV product. It is up to Virgin Media to ensure their sales force tell the truth in these matters and tell the customer they need to contact their existing TV provider. 

    • we3gees's avatar
      we3gees
      Tuning in

      Hi, when we spoke to the salesperson, we made it clear that we were switching so we could change our TV package provider. This is why when he said, we do everything for you, I asked did that include everything, broadband, talk service etc. We were left in no doubt that the TV would be done automatically by Virgin.

  • Not mis-sold, just incorrectly advised as to who has responsibility for cancelling services apart from broadband and landline.

    If you have also taken mobile services you'll also have to pay any early termination charges to Sky if you leave whilst in contract.

    If you want to keep your mobile number(s) make sure you understand how number porting works.

  • nodrogd's avatar
    nodrogd
    Very Insightful Person

    Door to door sales only visit new FTTP network build areas. These areas do not support the recordable TV boxes, as these only work on the legacy copper coaxial cable TV networks. Just as with Virgin, Sky have now removed the SkyQ box from front line sales, as the Sky Stream box now accounts for more than 70% of new customer business.

    The new switching service only includes Broadband & fixed line phone services. It also looks like the answer the salesman gave you deserved more investigation.

    I specifically asked if this covered all our services, Broadband, Talk and Mobile and he said that , yes, as far as he knew it did. 

    • RetiredATCO's avatar
      RetiredATCO
      Up to speed

      Incorrect generalisation.
      I am not in a FTTP area and had a door knocker at my home last November.

  • Hi we3gees 👋 Welcome to the community forum!

    Thanks for posting. 

    Sorry to hear this feedback about your recent experience with a door-to-door sales agent, and swapping to our services. 

    From the sounds of things you already have a complaint raised which is under investigation. Depending on which team the complaint has been assigned to, there may be some internal investigation and action taking place to try and prevent this from happening in future. 

    We'd need to take a look at the account and complaint in more detail to offer any further insight or guidance on next steps. 
    I will send you a PM to confirm a few details and offer support with this. Please keep an eye on your Inbox 📩 in the top right corner of the page for my message offering help. We can then return to this public thread with another update when possible. 

    Thanks for your patience in the meantime! 🌞

  • Hi All 👋 Just returning to this public thread to keep it updated. 

    Thanks to we3gees for PMing with me 📩. We were able to confirm the details needed, and received evidence to help us get this resolved. I'm glad to report it's now all been sorted. 

    Thanks for your patience whilst I offered support!

    Wishing you all the best. 🌞

  • I am really pleased to report that thanks to Molly T this unfortunate situation has now been resolved. Molly has been a superstar and definitely deserves a raise!

    • Steven_L's avatar
      Steven_L
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      Thanks for letting us know your issues have been resolved and I've passed on your thanks to Molly.

      Kind Regards,

      Steven_L