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amidabri's avatar
amidabri
Tuning in
26 days ago

Does my Virgin Media Hub 5 support ipv6?

Does my Virgin Media Hub 5 support IPv6?  I see on the website it is supporting Wifi 6.  I am assuming this is the same thing.  If it does how do I get this turned on?

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  • Buffer6's avatar
    Buffer6
    Alessandro Volta

    Virgin Media’s Hubs (including Hub 5) do not currently provide IPv6 to customers in the UK. Virgin Media still runs its network on IPv4 with carrier‑grade NAT.

    So even if the hardware could support IPv6, Virgin Media has not enabled it on their network, meaning:

    • You cannot turn IPv6 on
    • There is no hidden setting
    • WiFi 6 has nothing to do with IPv6
    • You must wait for Virgin Media to roll out IPv6 (no announced timeline)

       Virgin Media Ireland

      Completely different story.

      • Virgin Media Ireland does support IPv6
      • Native dual‑stack IPv4 + IPv6
      • Residential customers get IPv6 automatically
      • Uses DHCPv6‑PD (prefix delegation)
      • Works on their standard modems and in modem‑only mode with your own router

      So:  Ireland = IPv6 is live.  UK = IPv6 is not.

    • Tudor's avatar
      Tudor
      Very Insightful Person

      VM do NOT use CGN (Carrier Grade NAT). If they did you would have an IP address in the range 100.64.0.0 to 100.127.255.255 (see RFC1918) and with this it’s difficult to use port forwarding. Often IPs that use CGN actually do have IPv6. VM issue you a true IP which is ‘sticky’, that is it can change any time, but normally lasts for months.

       

      • legacy1's avatar
        legacy1
        Alessandro Volta

        At some point CGNAT will be enabled for VM but I think it will never happen under Docsis 

        My CGNAT by carefully coded router a long with modems with with a type of DAI would allow dynamic sharing AI learning of a WAN IP that splits into two for two users to use with that WAN IP on their device and allowing port forwarding with auto IP changing low DHCP lease should a port be in use. But no one wants to do it...

        bridgemode.bounceme.net/CGNATV2.html

    • Adduxi's avatar
      Adduxi
      Very Insightful Person

      AFAIK, VM IE use CGNAT for the dual stack IPv4 and IPv6.  If you need a DHCP IPv4 then you lose the IPv6 address.  This choice is usually taken by gamers. 

  • Considering the OP doesn't know the difference between a Wi-Fi standard and an Internet Protocol maybe we need to understand the ask first?

  • Thanks for all your replies. So to conclude, if you are using VM hubs, you can't use Matter devices? As I have been seeing, to get Matter devices to work with Apple Home, they need to use IPv6. So is the solution to buy a wireless router that is IPv6 compliant?

    • legacy1's avatar
      legacy1
      Alessandro Volta

      VM is still IPv4 not matter what router you get.

    • Tudor's avatar
      Tudor
      Very Insightful Person

      "So is the solution to buy a wireless router that is IPv6 compliant?" not strictly true. You can use just a router that does not have a WiFi access point included or turn off its WiFi SSIDs and use wireless access points that support  IPv6. My setup uses a Unifi UDM Pro router with 2 ISP connections and neither has IPv6. The access points I use support IPv6 and I have about 60 devices on my Apple Home setup.

  • Roger_Gooner's avatar
    Roger_Gooner
    Alessandro Volta

    I'm certain that IPV6 will be implemented over XGS-PON with a staged rollout perhaps in 2028-32. There's a lot of backend work to be done. Or to put it another way, not on the legacy infrastructure.