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wabula
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Critical error in Hub while in Modem Mode

Hub 5, set to modem mode.
Mesh connected and works perfectly for hours.

Sudden loss of wifi, unable to resolve until modem is turned off and on at wall.
This will repeat twice within a short time frame, then return to functioning.

The Hub has been replaced.

Attaching logs below

TimestampLevelMessage
02-09-2025 14:48:16criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=6c:ff:ce:fe:13:30;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:74:68:67;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
02-09-2025 14:48:19criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=6c:ff:ce:fe:13:30;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:74:68:67;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
02-09-2025 14:48:23criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=6c:ff:ce:fe:13:30;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:74:68:67;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
02-09-2025 14:48:28criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;…
02-09-2025 14:48:28critical16 consecutive T3 timeouts while trying to range on upstream channel 2;…
02-09-2025 14:48:28criticalUnicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;…
02-09-2025 14:49:53criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;…
02-09-2025 14:51:50criticalCable Modem Reboot because of - HW or Power-On Reset
02-09-2025 14:51:52criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;…
02-09-2025 14:52:15criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;…
02-09-2025 14:52:16criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;…
02-09-2025 14:52:32criticalUnicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;…
02-09-2025 14:52:33criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;…
02-09-2025 14:52:34criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;…
02-09-2025 14:52:34criticalUnicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;…
02-09-2025 14:52:34criticalUnicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;…
02-09-2025 14:52:34criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;…
02-09-2025 14:53:17criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;…
02-09-2025 14:53:41criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;…
02-09-2025 14:54:29critical16 consecutive T3 timeouts while trying to range on upstream channel 0;…
02-09-2025 14:54:29criticalUnicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;…
02-09-2025 14:54:29criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;…
02-09-2025 15:05:46criticalCable Modem Reboot because of - HW or Power-On Reset
02-09-2025 15:05:49criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;…
02-09-2025 15:05:56noticeHonoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv4
02-09-2025 15:05:59warningDHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response;…
02-09-2025 15:06:01noticeTLV-11 - unrecognized OID;…
02-09-2025 15:06:05noticeDS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;…
02-09-2025 15:06:14warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;…
02-09-2025 15:06:19noticeREGISTRATION COMPLETE - Waiting for Operational status





14 Replies

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta

    Looking at the Hub's Upstream and Downstream status tabs do you see signal levels that are out of the preferred range or many errors being logged ?

    • wabula's avatar
      wabula
      Joining in

      I only see the critical and warning above.
      What levels should I be seeing?

      The modem is working correctly at present.

      3.0 Downstream Channels (Error Stats)

      ChannelLocked StatusRxMER (dB)Pre RS ErrorsPost RS Errors
      1Locked38462314
      2Locked37951178190
      3Locked3743442711443
      4Locked38970305594
      5Locked37416558576
      6Locked3816336227
      7Locked3848837419
      8Locked3835371993
      9Locked381029930
      10Locked383723562
      11Locked37163218
      12Locked383975770
      13Locked381061421
      14Locked3746717
      15Locked3827618
      16Locked3824432
      17Locked3728520
      18Locked37619355
      19Locked37567333
      20Locked379718
      21Locked377619
      22Locked374214
      23Locked374520
      24Locked382716
      25Locked38532413
      26Locked38676462
      27Locked382216
      28Locked382211
      29Locked38427231
      30Locked38417202
      31Locked38403160
      • Adduxi's avatar
        Adduxi
        Very Insightful Person

        Please post all the stats for comment.  However the PostRS errors should be zero, or close to.

  • Adduxi's avatar
    Adduxi
    Very Insightful Person

    We need the Upstream as well, thanks.  Also setup a BQM to monitor the incoming circuit from VM  http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping

    What is supplying the network at the moment if the Hub is in Modem mode?  Is this device(s) working as expected?

    • wabula's avatar
      wabula
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      The network is controlled by TP Link Deco.
      Note worked perfectly with hub3 in modem mode.

      ChannelFrequency (Hz)Power (dBmV)Symbol Rate (ksps)ModulationChannel ID
      049,600,00047.05120QAM 641
      143,100,00046.85120QAM 642
      236,600,00046.55120QAM 643
      330,100,00045.55120QAM 644
      423,600,00044.85120QAM 645
      ChannelChannel TypeT1 TimeoutsT2 TimeoutsT3 TimeoutsT4 Timeouts
      0ATDMA00180
      1ATDMA00180
      2ATDMA00180
      3ATDMA00180
      4ATDMA00180
  • legacy1's avatar
    legacy1
    Alessandro Volta

    You should not need to reboot the hub if you can copy the  TP Link Deco WAN MAC to your PC NIC then connect it the hub in place of the TP Link Deco to see if it connects fine.

    • wabula's avatar
      wabula
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      When the hub is in this state, connecting directly to the hub with a laptop allows access to the hub stats, but does still does not have signal.

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta

    This is still only part of the available info.
    We have not seen the 3.0 Downstream power levels or any of the 3.1 Down or Up stats.

    So 18 T3 timeout affecting all of the 3.0 upstream channels, if that does not change I'd suspect an engineer making a connection at a local street cabinet. It is quite unusual to see identical count of T3 error on all channels.

    Same for the Downstream Post RS errors, if they now remain stable the issue has passed.

  • I have had an engineer to the house, and replaced the original hub5.
    They could see no issue.

    How would I go about escalating and refering to this thread?

     

  • Client62's avatar
    Client62
    Alessandro Volta

    Hub 3 replaced with a Hub 5 . . . 

    This might be a clue,  if the TP Link Deco is connected to the 2.5GB/s port of the Hub 5, the TP Link Deco must have Energy Efficient Ethernet aka EEE Disabled on its WAN port for stable & reliable operation.

    If this is not possible, the TP Link Deco should be connected to a 1GB/s port of the Hub 5.  

    • wabula's avatar
      wabula
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      Although TP Link does not expose EEE toggles, I have had the isssue on both the Port 1 1GB and Port 4 2.5 GB.
      Can this be a culprit on the 1GB ports?

       

  • If you're seeing the error “No Ranging Response received – T3 time-out”, which is a DOCSIS error indicating your modem is struggling to communicate properly with VM’s network equipment (specifically, the CMTS). This usually means that even though the modem sends a Ranging Request, it doesn’t get a response, causing it to reset the connection. 

    This error often points to issues in the physical connection typically on the upstream path. This could be caused by:

    • Faulty, corroded, or loosely connected coax cables/connector
    • Poor-quality or malfunctioning splitters/amplifiers
    • Interference or noise upstream
    • Issues outside your property, such as worn or overloaded infrastructure (taps, nodes, ports, etc)

    If you report this became apparent after upgrading to a Hub5, The Hub3 uses DOCSIS 3.0 while the Hub5 runs on DOCSIS 3.1. On paper, DOCSIS 3.1 is a big upgrade. It allows more capacity and higher speeds but it’s also more sensitive to any noise or signal imperfections on the line. With DOCSIS 3.0 (Hub3), the connection tends to be more forgiving, so you could have borderline signal levels (e.g. upstream power slightly high, or downstream SNR a bit low) and still not notice many issues. With DOCSIS 3.1 (Hub5), those same borderline levels can cause daily drop-outs, packet loss, or latency spikes.

  • legacy1's avatar
    legacy1
    Alessandro Volta

    Or your TP Link Deco is sending out ARP and DHCP of your LAN from many source MAC and Docsis disconnects you till a reboot unlikely but who could say?

    Test with a PC to the hub in modem mode and see if it disconnects.