IPv6 support on Virgin media
Does anyone know whether (and if so when) Virgin plan to implement IPv6 on its network?
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adhawkins wrote:Got my pre-order in with Giganet for FTTP with City Fibre. Static IPv4 and fully working IPv6 at 900 MBits/sec symmetric (for £41 a month).
Just got to wait for them to finish the laying of the infrastructure so I can sort out an install date.
Andy
When CityFibre come to my area (it is' scheduled' apparently) I will certainly look at them. if they can provide a service at a suitable price point and do it without needing to dig up my front garden/drive then it may well be a no-brainer.
ChrisJenkins wrote:
When CityFibre come to my area (it is' scheduled' apparently) I will certainly look at them. if they can provide a service at a suitable price point and do it without needing to dig up my front garden/drive then it may well be a no-brainer.
I'm assuming they'll need to run a cable under my front lawn in the same way VM did when they install 20-odd years ago. From memory the just lifted up a relatively thin line of the turf, stuck a plastic pipe or something in there and ran the cable through that, then put the grass back.
I guess we'll find out when City Fibre come to do the install. The termination of the fibre in the pavement looks to be about 6 inches to the left of where the VM cable is terminated, so should be relatively straightforward I would hope.
Andy
adhawkins wrote:I guess we'll find out when City Fibre come to do the install. The termination of the fibre in the pavement looks to be about 6 inches to the left of where the VM cable is terminated, so should be relatively straightforward I would hope.
Install was today. All relatively straightforward. The guys were initially concerned about the number of bends they'd need to put in the cable. They went ahead though, and all seems to be up and running perfectly. The guy dug a small 'trench' in the lawn (a couple of inches wide) to bury the cable in, and filled it in afterwards. Looks a bit of a message at the moment (it was raining so the grass is churned up a fair bit as a result) but given a little while I'm sure that'll settle down.
Speeds look good, and after a few minor issues I have fully working native IPv6 also.
Andy
Yeah, fibre really isn’t forgiving of sharp bends, I have almost, almost snapped one trying to reroute it around a cabinet, got away with it though!
glad to hear the install went smoothly! looks like city fibre isnt in my area, if it was i would probably try to convince my mother to switch ISP so one through it. when i eventually get my own place and if its available i will most likely be going for an ISP that uses city fibre. Does look like it is planned to be in my area though so thats good to know.
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You may find the concern was not to do with the fibre ‘snapping’ but for the attenuation and distortion caused by macrobending and microbending of the fibre in the small radius turns.
SOOOO...still no IPv6? we've asked for 13 YEARS!
THE REAL REASON why VM want to postpone IPv6 as long as possible is because THEY SELL IPv4 Static addresses to their business clients. It's a big business to buy IPv4 addresses as they are running out and very expensive to buy a block of IP's.
IPv6 is free and you can have millions of IP's.. all your devices get a static PUBLIC IP.
BETTER SECURITY
NO MORE NAT ISSUES (open NAT for gaming on PC/PS5/Xbox)
Devices have better support, direct connections as well as secure connections.
ITS FASTER - it has more efficient routing, faster mulitcasts - (cast to youtube/tv/chromecast/airplay)
BETTER PRIVACY - it has built in authentication, VM want to monitor your connections and traffic manage heavy users on social media/streams/downloads with their overutilized outdated cable network... why would they want to make it harder peak into your internet history?
ALL FOR FREE? Why would they waste their resources when they can keep buying and selling your IPv4 addresses to big companies and profit, every time you join and leave.
How embarassing, VM are literally the south park cable guys. milking your money.
https://media.tenor.com/2AES1Szq_hMAAAAC/oh-jeez-thats-terrible-cable-company-worker.gif
Run away as fast as you can, cityfiber and openreach are expanding and we need a time machine!If VM have enough IP4 address there is no business case to go to IP6, it will cost them a lot of money. My view is it will not happen until the DOCSIS network is replaced by XGPON equipment.
Virgin already has 2 IPv6 prefixes and they have IPv6 implemented under the hood so they have already went through all the work to set it up. Its just DHCPv6 appears to be firewalled off, i see router advertisements on the WAN interface of my router but they have the managed flag set. I see no reason why VM hasn't rolled out IPv6
- There is, of course, no IPv6 support on Virgin Media.
Remember: what VM give you is connectivity, not Internet Access. The connectivity does resemble internet access in some ways, but it's not the real deal; it is more appropriate to think of it as being like cable TV. However the substitute can be used, with the help of third parties, to emulate, albeit imperfectly, real internet connectivity. You'll need to do that to get IPv6.
