IPv6 support on Virgin media
Does anyone know whether (and if so when) Virgin plan to implement IPv6 on its network?
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thanks very much. I see the address checker now and it works. the top four lines are vdsl (clean and impacted) and gfast (clean and impacted). there is another line that talks about FTTP on demand and says available, but then a line later which says that it's not available..
I've checked some of the ISP's and interestingly, some offer 270meg plus, and some top out at 150meg plus.. not sure why. I like the idea of A&A as a very geeky ISP who would do things like RDNS etc, but they are pricey, have a data cap and only topping out at 150. zen gets good rep but is also £10pm more than I'm paying now (and £20pm more than I was paying several months ago). there's always talktalk... am I right to be leery or have they cleaned up their act? broadband is only a utility for me these days as I sort out other services elsewhere. Can you have all this without a phoneline?
Also, I use my own router (Ubiquiti UDM) can I ditch their router and use my own, or do I need a modem mode or similar? thanks for the help.
Here's a little bit of a breakdown of the data from the checker, if you aren't familiar with the information from the wholesale checker.
- VDSL - As you probably know already, standard "super fibre" FTTC packages. Depending on area the max clean rating usually is 80 mbps, varies based on distance from the cabinet.
- G.Fast - FTTC but using short local loops allowing faster speeds above your normal FTTC packages, usually over 100 mbps and above. Typically depending on how close you are to the cabinet will determine how fast you can get over G.Fast. Sounds like you are getting a rough range between 150 Mbps to 250 Mbps on average which isn't too bad.
- FTTPoD (Fibre to the Premise on Demand) - Basically, if you have unlimited funds you can essentially get FTTP to your premise and however many other properties that your build would pass. This is a very costly and lengthy option because you essentially pay the construction and build costs for the FTTP infrastructure to be implemented, you also enter into a very expensive contract for the initial phase of having a FTTP connection before you can drop down to a standard price (usually within 1-3 years). Not really worth entertaining unless you absolutely want FTTP at any cost! While more suited to businesses, some residential customers with serious bank have done it. The stories and estimates some have got are fun to read! Often they have shared the cost with the neighbourhood though to make it more viable.
Andrews and Arnold are probably the best ISP in the space that actually know their stuff and networking terminology ksim was poking fun at some VM Engineers about earlier, Zen is also a solid choice based on what I've heard.
TalkTalk don't do IPv6 as far as I know so probably not an option.
I believe G.Fast is possible without a phone line usually referred to as SOGEA, but it will be up to the provider. In a lot of cases you'll likely be getting a phone line as G.Fast is still using the FTTC infrastructure. I know EE has more recently launched broadband services without it, I know Sky do this as well, but sadly no IPv6 on EE home broadband still I believe. The mobile network however has been IPv6 for a while now. 5G broadband is potentially an alternative if you're in a good coverage area, considering 5G can rival some FTTP packages speed wise but mobile broadband isn't necessarily a good choice for hosting services. Example, EE firewall all inbound on their IPv6 mobile network and IPv4 is through CGNAT, equally if the consumer side is still the same, they didn't offer anything more than /64 prefix.
For FTTC broadband, you might have to get a G.Fast VDSL cable modem separately (one example Vigor), as most of the ISPs will likely provide some router/modem combo which may or may not support bridge/modem mode, but some of the more techy ISPs will likely provide CPE that has this already, so it may vary.
Sounds like you might have some research to do. Feel free to message me, might be banned at this rate for advertising non Virgin Media options 😮