IPv6 support on Virgin media
Does anyone know whether (and if so when) Virgin plan to implement IPv6 on its network?
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A good time to remember a great story by El Reg, about what Virgin Media thought about IPv6 over three years ago when one customer ranted about it.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/28/virgin_media_no_ipv6/
Their position is mostly unchanged today! In short, we are the nerds, VM doesn't see the demand, notice how zero official VM staff have replied on this thread for years, we're probably a nuisance to them at this point
jamesmacwhite wrote:In short, we are the nerds,
as it something bad, without us "nerds", the rest would be queueing in a postoffice now.
VM doesn't see the demand,
and will never see, because I am busting my ass that IPv4-only customers have full access services my company is providing and have the same experience, even more I have to sacrifice usability and cost-effectiveness because of that.
notice how zero official VM staff have replied on this thread for years,
like it something bad, every time they open their mouths we hear something ridiculously stupid things.
we're probably a nuisance to them at this point
everything beyond rebooting a router is a nuisance for them.
Let's just accept a few things:
- IPv6 transition is unavoidable, you have to do it, or just die.
- There is no reason to delay transition if you can do it now, that won't save you money or anything, just creates more pressure from "nerds" and social media
- Shortage of IPv4 is not relevant to IPv6 (explained billion times)
- Moving to IPv6 benefits your internal infrastructure (if you worked with networks it is clear) and your support (no more NAT issues)
To summarise, VM just incompetent to do IPv6 transition.
I don't disagree. Here's one to add:
If they won't deploy IPv6 anytime soon, please stop messing with protocol 41, so tunnel users will be less likely to be angry at "when IPv6?" is still asked in 2050.
- Looks like very few major ISP's are using IPv6 in the UK https://ipv6-test.com/stats/country/GB
BT and Sky are two of the majors who both support it - both using proper full-fat Dual-Stack as well.
The major UK fixed line home ISPs are
- Sky - IPv6 in use by >90% of subscribers
- Virgin - No IPv6
- BT - IPv6 in use by >65% of subscribers. It's not supported by their older hubs, but these are gradually being removed as customers churn and hardware fails. I imagine if lack of IPv6 is a problem for a particular customer then they would send them a new hub.
- TalkTalk - No IPv6
- PlusNet - No IPv6
The mobile providers:
- EE - IPv6 in use
- Vodafone - No IPv6
- O2 - No IPv6
- Three - IPv6 rollout in progress
These ISPs serve the majority of UK domestic internet traffic. If you ignore PlusNet (by far the smallest) then half of the UKs major providers have IPv6 support. We need them all to support IPv6 before services can start to rely on IPv6.
